@Darth, And this year it has less software, so what's your point Darth? Price won't make much of a difference in sales when you don't have the software to push the hardware.

@Buzzi, the PS3 has been having more Hardware driving software for the last few weeks than the Wii, like this week it has this winning eleven game, the price cut in Japan hasn't had the same effect as in the west, because there haven't been games to push the hardware for Wii in Japan.

Yes I know, but what I wanted to say is that Wii is not performing well...maybe it's doing ok for not having system sellers in like 4 months (MH3) but not exactly what you would expect from the console leader which also had a price cut. Luckly there are bundles and games in december, but at this point I'm not sure they'll be enough to put the Wii in 1st position, over the ps3.

The Wii software starts ramping up soon - if it isn't up YoY or above the PS3 by the end of November (>50k), things aren't looking good for the holidays.

I still have my doubts about these PS3 sales carrying onto the holidays. The lead console always takes December by a long shot, even the PSP didn't come close (though I'm sure slim & FF will make it as close as we'll ever see).

lol... the wii won't sell 200 million units lifetime more like 100 the wii won't last that long nor will it beat out ps2 sales record.. its coming out with what wii 2 next year which won't have nowhere near the accidental succuss of this wii srry

That isn't necessarily true.. the ps3 didnt really have that many AAA japanese loving ip until PES and maybe TEKKEN, yet its cut really pushed its sales, while the wii had wii fit plus and its price cut and it hasn't managed to outsell the ps3 yet.

Jebus imagine what that slim MOFO will do after FF13 drops.

drab your hard hats boys, things will go boom.

I think you're forgetting Tales of Vesperia and the Gundam game. But your point is right. The PS3 revival is being driven by the price cut.

The best part about these threads with all the people screaming "RIP wii" and "what will save the wii in Japan!!" is that when the PS3 drops back down to sub 10k levels they will avoid these threads like the plague just as they have been for most of the year. So you better get your gloating in now because when things go back to normal, there's going to be a fresh plate of crow waiting for you. Not that you'll eat it because you'll head for the hills like you always do when you have to face the reality of the market.

Iwata kind of agrees with us, Claude.

When will things be back to normal? People were saying that would be the case once the Wii price dropped and it's been a while since then. I think the definition of normal in Japan is now redefined.