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sieanr on 26 October 2007
EnosStory said:
Funny is they also whined about PS2 dragging Sony down due to its expensive hardware back in the early stages of the previous gen.

Funny this is this didn't happen from the mainstream press. 

You have to remember that the PS2 never caused the games division to post losses this big. Oh, and the cost of PS2 hardware is a drop in the bucket compared to the PS3.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

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Borkachev on 26 October 2007

Aren't you guys supposed to making up some new threat spreading across America? Like killer bees or something? Or was that already done?

Yes.



patjuan32 on 26 October 2007
zackblue said:
Its a shame, they werent like this with the gamecube or the xbox.

 Actually, the gaming press was really down on Nintendo. Articles stated that the GameCube was a failure and that Nintendo should/would become a third party developer. This is how the press works. When a company is on top, the press cheers. If the company falls to the bottom the press jeers.



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EnosStory on 26 October 2007
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
Funny is they also whined about PS2 dragging Sony down due to its expensive hardware back in the early stages of the previous gen.

Funny this is this didn't happen from the mainstream press.

You have to remember that the PS2 never caused the games division to post losses this big. Oh, and the cost of PS2 hardware is a drop in the bucket compared to the PS3.


So by your standard a title of "Disaster of the Day: Sony" from forbes is not mainstream ?

 Oh and the profits from PS2 are a drop in the bucket compared to what they can make from Games, PSn, Bluray and movie/music.



vizunary on 26 October 2007

they're right... i should just throw my PS3 off the roof...



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sieanr on 26 October 2007
EnosStory said:
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
Funny is they also whined about PS2 dragging Sony down due to its expensive hardware back in the early stages of the previous gen.

Funny this is this didn't happen from the mainstream press.

You have to remember that the PS2 never caused the games division to post losses this big. Oh, and the cost of PS2 hardware is a drop in the bucket compared to the PS3.


So by your standard a title of "Disaster of the Day: Sony" from forbes is not mainstream ?

 Oh and the profits from PS2 are a drop in the bucket compared to what they can make from Games, PSn, Bluray and movie/music.


That article was about the PS2s launch cost lowering the profits of their electronics division. However, the PS3 nearly a year after launch has posted a significant loss.

The ~25mil the forbes article cites is a joke compared to the >800mil the PS3 has lost them. Sure, they can eventually make up the losses, but that means a large amount of software sales and hardware sales. Currently the PS3 isn't exactly doing either. Also, the profits from the PS2 are nothing to sneeze at. But nice job bringing up services that have yet to launch, and may never launch.

visunary said: they're right... i should just throw my PS3 off the roof...

Yeah, cause the article wasn't about the financial losses the PS3 has incurred, you know, stuff that might matter to investors. Thosearticles just wanted you to regret you're purchase - silly MS funded press. 



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

ssj12 on 26 October 2007
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
Funny is they also whined about PS2 dragging Sony down due to its expensive hardware back in the early stages of the previous gen.

Funny this is this didn't happen from the mainstream press.

You have to remember that the PS2 never caused the games division to post losses this big. Oh, and the cost of PS2 hardware is a drop in the bucket compared to the PS3.


So by your standard a title of "Disaster of the Day: Sony" from forbes is not mainstream ?

Oh and the profits from PS2 are a drop in the bucket compared to what they can make from Games, PSn, Bluray and movie/music.


That article was about the PS2s launch cost lowering the profits of their electronics division. However, the PS3 nearly a year after launch has posted a significant loss.

The ~25mil the forbes article cites is a joke compared to the >800mil the PS3 has lost them. Sure, they can eventually make up the losses, but that means a large amount of software sales and hardware sales. Currently the PS3 isn't exactly doing either. Also, the profits from the PS2 are nothing to sneeze at. But nice job bringing up services that have yet to launch, and may never launch.

visunary said: they're right... i should just throw my PS3 off the roof...

Yeah, cause the article wasn't about the financial losses the PS3 has incurred, you know, stuff that might matter to investors. Thosearticles just wanted you to regret you're purchase - silly MS funded press.


Honestly people laugh at Sony for their loses yet Microsoft is still -7 billion for their game division (havent seen latest report yet) and they are in courts yet again over the 360 to extend the warrenty over all destroyed Games/Movies/CDs and the DVD drives, and the HD-DVD drive and HD-DVDs. Microsoft is on the verge of losing and this will be an even bigger hit then the 1 billion from the RROD case. The costs could easily top 3 billion dollars. 



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Kasz216 on 26 October 2007
ssj12 said:
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
Funny is they also whined about PS2 dragging Sony down due to its expensive hardware back in the early stages of the previous gen.

Funny this is this didn't happen from the mainstream press.

You have to remember that the PS2 never caused the games division to post losses this big. Oh, and the cost of PS2 hardware is a drop in the bucket compared to the PS3.


So by your standard a title of "Disaster of the Day: Sony" from forbes is not mainstream ?

Oh and the profits from PS2 are a drop in the bucket compared to what they can make from Games, PSn, Bluray and movie/music.


That article was about the PS2s launch cost lowering the profits of their electronics division. However, the PS3 nearly a year after launch has posted a significant loss.

The ~25mil the forbes article cites is a joke compared to the >800mil the PS3 has lost them. Sure, they can eventually make up the losses, but that means a large amount of software sales and hardware sales. Currently the PS3 isn't exactly doing either. Also, the profits from the PS2 are nothing to sneeze at. But nice job bringing up services that have yet to launch, and may never launch.

visunary said: they're right... i should just throw my PS3 off the roof...

Yeah, cause the article wasn't about the financial losses the PS3 has incurred, you know, stuff that might matter to investors. Thosearticles just wanted you to regret you're purchase - silly MS funded press.


Honestly people laugh at Sony for their loses yet Microsoft is still -7 billion for their game division (havent seen latest report yet) and they are in courts yet again over the 360 to extend the warrenty over all destroyed Games/Movies/CDs and the DVD drives, and the HD-DVD drive and HD-DVDs. Microsoft is on the verge of losing and this will be an even bigger hit then the 1 billion from the RROD case. The costs could easily top 3 billion dollars. 


And?  That's not news yet.  The Mainstream press is only going to report things after they happen in the videogame world cause it's not that important to them and just filler for the 24 hour news networks.  Once they lose i'm sure they'll bring it up... for like  a day  Then they'll get back to the OJ coverage and asking if America is ready for a Black president while simaltaniously asking if O'Bama is black enough. (Wha?)



ssj12 on 26 October 2007
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
sieanr said:
EnosStory said:
Funny is they also whined about PS2 dragging Sony down due to its expensive hardware back in the early stages of the previous gen.

Funny this is this didn't happen from the mainstream press.

You have to remember that the PS2 never caused the games division to post losses this big. Oh, and the cost of PS2 hardware is a drop in the bucket compared to the PS3.


So by your standard a title of "Disaster of the Day: Sony" from forbes is not mainstream ?

Oh and the profits from PS2 are a drop in the bucket compared to what they can make from Games, PSn, Bluray and movie/music.


That article was about the PS2s launch cost lowering the profits of their electronics division. However, the PS3 nearly a year after launch has posted a significant loss.

The ~25mil the forbes article cites is a joke compared to the >800mil the PS3 has lost them. Sure, they can eventually make up the losses, but that means a large amount of software sales and hardware sales. Currently the PS3 isn't exactly doing either. Also, the profits from the PS2 are nothing to sneeze at. But nice job bringing up services that have yet to launch, and may never launch.

visunary said: they're right... i should just throw my PS3 off the roof...

Yeah, cause the article wasn't about the financial losses the PS3 has incurred, you know, stuff that might matter to investors. Thosearticles just wanted you to regret you're purchase - silly MS funded press.


Honestly people laugh at Sony for their loses yet Microsoft is still -7 billion for their game division (havent seen latest report yet) and they are in courts yet again over the 360 to extend the warrenty over all destroyed Games/Movies/CDs and the DVD drives, and the HD-DVD drive and HD-DVDs. Microsoft is on the verge of losing and this will be an even bigger hit then the 1 billion from the RROD case. The costs could easily top 3 billion dollars.


And? That's not news yet. The Mainstream press is only going to report things after they happen in the videogame world cause it's not that important to them and just filler for the 24 hour news networks. Once they lose i'm sure they'll bring it up... for like a day Then they'll get back to the OJ coverage and asking if America is ready for a Black president while simaltaniously asking if O'Bama is black enough. (Wha?)


 half the articles are basically bs anyways. halo 3 isnt the hottest game ou, maybe in console land but I could have sworn Half Life 2: The Orange Box took the title of best game this season away from Halo rather quickly. 

As for Sony vs Nintendo and the tech article. They speak more truths then other other two but still spin everything possible towards the current leader. Its the same thing thats going on in the Presidential coverage. Hilary gets 80% of all the attention for Democrats and Guliani gets 80% of all the attention for Republicans. The media always gives a negative spin to the least popular what the producers/editors of the news companies prefer. There is no such thing as balanced media from companies like Fox, CNN, ABC, etc. You have to get your news from sites like IGN and GamePolitics to have balanced views. 



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fkusumot on 26 October 2007

I found this interesting, from the businessweek piece:

Sony still sells every PlayStation 3 for several hundred dollars less than what it costs to make it. With its decision in early October to cut the price per machine of some models by $100, the gaming division will continue to weigh down Sony for some time. There's the added concern that the U.S. subprime loan mess and rising energy prices could make consumers think twice about spending between $399 and $599 for one of three PS3 models when they can buy rivals' machines for less.



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