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Very awesome looking gameplay video (better looking than Undisputed in my opinion) aired right before the Fedor Emelianenko/Brett Rogers fight.

 

The game seems to be coming to shape pretty well, even without the presence of any UFC fighters except Randy. They have the world's best fighter in Fedor Emelianenko (btw, did anyone watch that fight? that right hand could probably kill a grizzly bear), the world's most popular fighter in Randy Couture (garnered through an old contract dispute between Randy and the UFC), and a contract with Strikeforce, the second most popular MMA brand today.

Others who have already signed are:

Frank Shamrock (YES!)
Babalu Sobral
Jake Shields
Jason Miller
Brett Rogers
King Mo Luwal
Jay Hieron
Gegard Mousasi

Other popular fighters that will probably be signed through Strikeforce soon:

Fabricio Werdum
Antonio Silva
Alistair Overeem
Roger Gracie
Thierry Sokoudjou
Kevin Randleman
Cung Le (Oh please sign already, you bastard)
Robbie Lawler
Jacare (zomg, if he signs..)
Matt Lindland
Nick Diaz
Josh Thomson
Gilbert Melendez
Vitor Ribeiro
And lets not forget the women.. I think if they put a women's division, and get Gina Carano to endorse the game, it'll be great :D

Other popular fighters from outside Strikeforce that could potentially sign, since the other MMA orgs outside the UFC constantly co-promote:

Andrei Arlovski
Tim Sylvia
Sergei Kharitonov
Bobby Lashley
Ricardo Arona (this would be pretty big..)
Aleksander Emelianenko (Fedor's brother)
Paolo Filho
Mark Hunt

There's also a lot of room for expansion, most especially in Japan. Sengoku and Dream have some of the best lightweight fighters in the world, and if, say, Shinya Aoki and Takanori Gomi would sign with EA, that would make this game a sure hit in Japan.

I'm very much hyped for this game. I'm a huge MMA fan and having Fedor and Randy in the game is already a sure purchase for me. I think that having Fedor, Randy, and Strikeforce under their banner is enough to make this a million seller.



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Having Fedor almost makes it a purchase, but we'll have to wait to see if it's a turd or not.



^dammmn... that right hand tore a hole through his face..

the last time i saw a russian hit a brother that hard, Ivan Drago killed Apollo Creed in the ring.



I won't be getting this game, because I don't think it'll succeed, meaning the online multiplayer will likely be dead in 6 months. You just can't make an MMA game and not have the backing of the UFC. Outside of Fedor, almost every top ranked fighter in any weight class fights for the UFC and won't be a part of this game. Having Randy Couture at the twilight of his career isn't doing much, considering by the time this game releases, he could have three straight losses...or more.

Not to mention there's far too many people that think the name of the sport is UFC and not MMA. On top of it, Strikeforce just isn't a big deal right now. The game's success partially weighs on Strikeforces' and that doesn't seem to be happening.



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UFC Undisputed looks better in my opinion



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Onyxmeth said:

I won't be getting this game, because I don't think it'll succeed, meaning the online multiplayer will likely be dead in 6 months. You just can't make an MMA game and not have the backing of the UFC. Outside of Fedor, almost every top ranked fighter in any weight class fights for the UFC and won't be a part of this game. Having Randy Couture at the twilight of his career isn't doing much, considering by the time this game releases, he could have three straight losses...or more.

Not to mention there's far too many people that think the name of the sport is UFC and not MMA. On top of it, Strikeforce just isn't a big deal right now. The game's success partially weighs on Strikeforces' and that doesn't seem to be happening.

UFC power is far overraterd by delusional Americans.  Hell the world most vieved mma fights did not even happpen in the ufc. 

MMA rankings mean shit all, a real mma fan should know that.  Even if they do close to half of what are considered top fighters don't fight in the ufc.

Randy is loved by his fans win or lose, he always fights top fighters so no one holds losing agianst him.  Capatin America is a fan favorie no matter what. 

4 million people watched Strikeforces MMA on cbs, they know now the sport is mma not ufc.  Actually striekforce is the big deal right now.  With a cbs and showtime deal something UFC faield to achive and a partnership with DreamFC.  Strikeforce has quite alot going for it.

 



After the whole fiasco with the UFC game and EA calling MMA "not a real sport".

I would have to be insane to support this.



Hus said:
Onyxmeth said:

I won't be getting this game, because I don't think it'll succeed, meaning the online multiplayer will likely be dead in 6 months. You just can't make an MMA game and not have the backing of the UFC. Outside of Fedor, almost every top ranked fighter in any weight class fights for the UFC and won't be a part of this game. Having Randy Couture at the twilight of his career isn't doing much, considering by the time this game releases, he could have three straight losses...or more.

Not to mention there's far too many people that think the name of the sport is UFC and not MMA. On top of it, Strikeforce just isn't a big deal right now. The game's success partially weighs on Strikeforces' and that doesn't seem to be happening.

UFC power is far overraterd by delusional Americans.  Hell the world most vieved mma fights did not even happpen in the ufc. 

MMA rankings mean shit all, a real mma fan should know that.  Even if they do close to half of what are considered top fighters don't fight in the ufc.

Randy is loved by his fans win or lose, he always fights top fighters so no one holds losing agianst him.  Capatin America is a fan favorie no matter what. 

4 million people watched Strikeforces MMA on cbs, they know now the sport is mma not ufc.  Actually striekforce is the big deal right now.  With a cbs and showtime deal something UFC faield to achive and a partnership with DreamFC.  Strikeforce has quite alot going for it.

 

America is likely the singlest biggest market for a game in this genre. The success of this title hinges on America giving a crap about it, since it's still mostly based on an American brand in Strikeforce.

So who makes MMA ranking then, the enemies of MMA? Something is telling me they come from people that watch a lot of different promotions and come to a conclusion, like you know how a fan might. Whether you have any stock in websites like Sherdog is irrelevent. MMA rankings are very popular, and discounting them as meaningless is the equivalent of shutting out the opinion of ESPN in traditional sports. So lets go by your figure and say half of the best fighters are in the UFC. That's half, under one promotion, fighting eachother. Sounds like a lot of talent that won't be in this MMA game. Note there's also nothing stopping UFC and THQ from including other promotions in the next UFC game either. It's their choice to make. They just know they don't have to.

Randy Couture was great, and now he's nearing the end. He's still competitive to a degree, but at this point, marketing him for this game is like Sega making Joe Montana Football after Montana joined the Kansas City Chiefs. We also don't know how long this deal is for. If it's a single game, he won't be returning in the MMA sequel, if there ever is one. Not to mention that the promotion of Couture in this game just shines more light on the UFC since that's where he fights.

Strikeforce doesn't have the big name talent. That's the problem. They'll be wrung out to dry the moment they can't produce decent ratings, and there's only so many times Fedor Imelianenko can highlight every event for them. What is he under contract for again? Three fights? Let's see the four million when he's not headlining, since he's the only guy they seem to be trying to market. Got anyone else in mind that can pull in those ratings? Not that those ratings are great, mind you. They're not. Kimbo Slice pulled in 6.51 in that Elite XC fight CBS did last year.

UFC didn't fail to get a network deal. They chose not to go with one because they didn't like the terms. Do you really think Strikeforce is what CBS wanted, or what they settled for? I'm choosing the latter. The moment UFC wants a network deal and/or a paid subscription deal, there isn't a network that would turn them down. They probably just want a far better deal than whatever Strikeforce has with CBS.

This game is going to have the same problems that Pro Evo and All Pro Football have had, because of the actions of EA and their licensing. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Without the license that people really want from EA, they just won't flock to the stores to buy it. It's not like THQ makes a bad UFC game. Far from it. The UFC gets more top talent every year, and the promotion is flourishing where other promotions are not. THQ has access to the UFC, WEC and whatever assets they own from Pride FC since Zuffa owns all of that. EA is just fighting a battle they cannot hope to win. I see this game flopping in comparison to the UFC series, and I plan to put my own money in the more successful of the two, since that will generate a community of players.

 



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Onyxmeth said:

America is likely the singlest biggest market for a game in this genre. The success of this title hinges on America giving a crap about it, since it's still mostly based on an American brand in Strikeforce.

So who makes MMA ranking then, the enemies of MMA? Something is telling me they come from people that watch a lot of different promotions and come to a conclusion, like you know how a fan might. Whether you have any stock in websites like Sherdog is irrelevent. MMA rankings are very popular, and discounting them as meaningless is the equivalent of shutting out the opinion of ESPN in traditional sports. So lets go by your figure and say half of the best fighters are in the UFC. That's half, under one promotion, fighting eachother. Sounds like a lot of talent that won't be in this MMA game. Note there's also nothing stopping UFC and THQ from including other promotions in the next UFC game either. It's their choice to make. They just know they don't have to.

Randy Couture was great, and now he's nearing the end. He's still competitive to a degree, but at this point, marketing him for this game is like Sega making Joe Montana Football after Montana joined the Kansas City Chiefs. We also don't know how long this deal is for. If it's a single game, he won't be returning in the MMA sequel, if there ever is one. Not to mention that the promotion of Couture in this game just shines more light on the UFC since that's where he fights.

Strikeforce doesn't have the big name talent. That's the problem. They'll be wrung out to dry the moment they can't produce decent ratings, and there's only so many times Fedor Imelianenko can highlight every event for them. What is he under contract for again? Three fights? Let's see the four million when he's not headlining, since he's the only guy they seem to be trying to market. Got anyone else in mind that can pull in those ratings? Not that those ratings are great, mind you. They're not. Kimbo Slice pulled in 6.51 in that Elite XC fight CBS did last year.

UFC didn't fail to get a network deal. They chose not to go with one because they didn't like the terms. Do you really think Strikeforce is what CBS wanted, or what they settled for? I'm choosing the latter. The moment UFC wants a network deal and/or a paid subscription deal, there isn't a network that would turn them down. They probably just want a far better deal than whatever Strikeforce has with CBS.

This game is going to have the same problems that Pro Evo and All Pro Football have had, because of the actions of EA and their licensing. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Without the license that people really want from EA, they just won't flock to the stores to buy it. It's not like THQ makes a bad UFC game. Far from it. The UFC gets more top talent every year, and the promotion is flourishing where other promotions are not. THQ has access to the UFC, WEC and whatever assets they own from Pride FC since Zuffa owns all of that. EA is just fighting a battle they cannot hope to win. I see this game flopping in comparison to the UFC series, and I plan to put my own money in the more successful of the two, since that will generate a community of players.

 

I agree with almost everything you said, except two things.

1.) Randy Couture, despite being old and in the last legs of his career, and even if he loses 5 fights in a row, is still the most popular fighter in the world. Just having him on the cover is going to move a hell of a lot of copies.

2.) Strikeforce is already showing that it has the muscle to compete with the UFC. It got 4 million viewers on CBS as mentioned. The highest PPV number that the UFC has ever gotten is 1 million plus (much less since of course, Strikeforce was on free TV while UFC is on PPV). Of course, the UFC definitely has more fans. All I'm saying is that people now understand that MMA is not equal to just UFC. 4 million people, at least, know this already, and they just got a glimpse of Fedor Emelianenko destroy a guy who's 4 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier with one punch. It can only grow from there.

EA won't sell as many as THQ simply because of the UFC license. But they're gonna sell a pretty good number (a million at least, i think), and as MMA continues to grow outside the UFC (which is definitely happening), we can potentially see a power shift in the future.



Hus said: 

UFC power is far overraterd by delusional Americans.  Hell the world most vieved mma fights did not even happpen in the ufc.

MMA rankings mean shit all, a real mma fan should know that.  Even if they do close to half of what are considered top fighters don't fight in the ufc.

Randy is loved by his fans win or lose, he always fights top fighters so no one holds losing agianst him.  Capatin America is a fan favorie no matter what.

4 million people watched Strikeforces MMA on cbs, they know now the sport is mma not ufc.  Actually striekforce is the big deal right now.  With a cbs and showtime deal something UFC faield to achive and a partnership with DreamFC.  Strikeforce has quite alot going for it.

 

1.) "delusional Americans" represents the largest market for MMA right now, and most of them are UFC fans exclusively. Almost all UFC shows are PPV, so you cannot compare them to shows on free network TV.

2.) MMA rankings do mean something, because it is the fans who decide them in the end.

3.) Yes, Randy will be loved no matter what happens.

4.) And yes, Strikeforce is becoming a big deal right now. But they are nowhere near the UFC marketing level yet.