I remember a thread last week about Blacksite shipping in November but the PS3 version was going to be gimped down with no multi-player or co-op...

Well, good news sort of...

They are delaying the PS3 version but not saying anything about multi-player / co-op.  Hopefully they are working on it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=85972

At least they are not saying it won't be in the final release.

What a suprise, another PS3 3rd party game delayed

On the 360, Microsoft handles the infrastructure for online play (and charges for it).

On the PC, servers are ran by tons of different companies, which often make money from advertising.

On the PS3, isn't the developer/publisher responsible for creating and administrating the servers, etc? I heard so, which is why third party games on the PS3 may require users to pay fees for paying online.

@ NJ5 I haven't found any game that require extra fees for paying online (certainly RSV and GRAW 2)

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/10/24/industry-insider-blacksite-area-51

PS3 Blacksite plagued with development trouble, says insider

By Frank Caron | Published: October 24, 2007 - 10:58AM CT

Yesterday, we talked a bit about Blacksite: Area 51 and the missing online features in the PlayStation 3 version. Since that story ran, an insider contacted us to say the PS3 version's problems may run deeper than a lack of voice chat.

"The PS3 version is experiencing issues and missed deadlines," he tells us. The insider also notes Midway's unhappiness with these issues; the PS3 demo and launch will likely end up being delayed as a result.

"Midway isn't happy at all about the progress, and it's a story I've heard over and over this year across the industry when it comes to the PS3 and cross-platform titles," the insider states.

The Unreal Engine powers Blacksite, which presents the possibility that the engine itself is leading to development problems. Midway's other big PS3 releases of Stranglehold and Unreal Tournament 3 have also seen long delays.

Sadly, the problems with Blacksite: Area 51 only further the growing list of problematic multiplatform releases on the PS3, and could reinforce the qualms about working with the Unreal Engine among multiplatform developers. 

Ah, it has Unreal...that's why hehe.

Unreal engine + PS3 = delay.

I don't understand what some of the problems with the PS3 are, lots of companies are making great games and making them better on the PS3 but other companies can't even get anything right. I don't think the unreal engine is to blame, UT3 is going to look the same on the PS3 as a $1500 PC rig. With all the maps and everything, and only being pushed back 2months at the very most.

Are developers just spending there time on the wrong stuff or just trying to force a game out in a unreasonable time?

Its a similar situation to the PS2.

So, you may see online support for a game permanently dropped, like MGS online, whereas live games theroretically have online forever.

No its not.

Higher resolution, better AF, better AA, better framerate, ect.

Where are all the "lazy developers" comments?

Sinha, don't worry they will begin shortly. It amazes me how when Konami delays MGS4 or Square Enix pushes back FFXIII no one calls them lazy....