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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS3 May Have Already OUSOLD Wii In Japan For 2009! (Will it stay)!

saicho on 03 November 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Even if the console numbers come out in the Wii's favor, I think PS3 will definitely make more money in Japan this year than Wii because it selling so close to Wii as it is and it costs significantly more than the Wii console.

you are talking about revenue, not profit, right?



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

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Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Train wreck said:
I just call it Wii damage control. Whether or not the PS3 wins Japan (even though it will), the Wii still loses.

I'm just waiting for the excuses to be used to justify why the Wii struggled in 2009.

Waiting for the excuses? There's more than enough of them in this thread


We already know why the Wii struggled in 2009, even Iwata admitted why, so why does anyone need to give an excuse? The facts are already out there. The point of this topic was whether PS3 can outsell the Wii in 2009, in Japan, not why Wii struggled.

That's rich coming from the guy who started all the Sony remote / Wii Vitality /  rubbish.

Practice what you preach eh?


Actually you guys went off on a tangent about my predictions first, lol

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Carl on 03 November 2009
saicho said:

1. I don't know Avinash.

2. The thread has turned into a childish play between you and Avinash. Again. When Avinash finally brought up a valid point, you continued mocking it which is the only point I called you out on. Can you enlighten me how Avinahs was trolling by providing the Miyamoto article?

1. You are a lucky guy.

2. The thread turned into me mocking him and his usual time machine stuff. Also, i never said the link was trolling. I gave him a bit of evidence to show that the guy aint always right



                            

Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Train wreck said:
I just call it Wii damage control. Whether or not the PS3 wins Japan (even though it will), the Wii still loses.

I'm just waiting for the excuses to be used to justify why the Wii struggled in 2009.

Waiting for the excuses? There's more than enough of them in this thread


We already know why the Wii struggled in 2009, even Iwata admitted why, so why does anyone need to give an excuse? The facts are already out there. The point of this topic was whether PS3 can outsell the Wii in 2009, in Japan, not why Wii struggled.

That's rich coming from the guy who started all the Sony remote / Wii Vitality /  rubbish.

Practice what you preach eh?


Actually you guys went off on a tangent about my predictions first, lol

Thats not going off topic. That usually becomes the topic when you post in any thread to do with sales or PS consoles.



                            

Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

 

So you're trying to compare Katuragi to Iwata, seriously? If Iwata says that their next console will have HD and says that he won't price a console over $250, its not just bluster, he doesn't say things without a reason The Wii vitality sensor is still a ways off, they'll reveal the software at E3 2010, the Sony wand already has its launch software set, Wii fit and Wii sports are already out, so the Sony wand will have to compete with its launch software against those games.

Kutaragi didnt say things without a reason either. Are you flaming/trolling Ken? I sure hope not.

No it doesn't. It has part of its launch software set... With Gran Turismo 5 also rumored to be usable with it. I think so far there is one game confirmed... Resident Evil 5. Which is by no means a bad choice. Im surprised the WIi didn't get a RE5: Wii Edition actually.

Why do you think this is?

I don't need to troll Ken, he trolled himself, that's why he's no longer at Sony, lol Even if you include GT5, it still doesn't have the games to target the expanded audience, its games are targeting the core audience

I agree with you on that one actually. And GT5 doesn't go to just the core, it goes to both markets. Thats how the games manage to sell massive amounts.


Well we don't know if it will sell massive amounts, the only GT on PS3 sold about 3 million, it was on the PS2 that GT sold over 10 million, on a console with over 130 million units sold, so actually not a huge attach rate

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Train wreck said:
I just call it Wii damage control. Whether or not the PS3 wins Japan (even though it will), the Wii still loses.

I'm just waiting for the excuses to be used to justify why the Wii struggled in 2009.

Waiting for the excuses? There's more than enough of them in this thread


We already know why the Wii struggled in 2009, even Iwata admitted why, so why does anyone need to give an excuse? The facts are already out there. The point of this topic was whether PS3 can outsell the Wii in 2009, in Japan, not why Wii struggled.

That's rich coming from the guy who started all the Sony remote / Wii Vitality /  rubbish.

Practice what you preach eh?


Actually you guys went off on a tangent about my predictions first, lol

Thats not going off topic. That usually becomes the topic when you post in any thread to do with sales or PS consoles.


That's still going off topic, lol and that was you guys

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

 

So you're trying to compare Katuragi to Iwata, seriously? If Iwata says that their next console will have HD and says that he won't price a console over $250, its not just bluster, he doesn't say things without a reason The Wii vitality sensor is still a ways off, they'll reveal the software at E3 2010, the Sony wand already has its launch software set, Wii fit and Wii sports are already out, so the Sony wand will have to compete with its launch software against those games.

Kutaragi didnt say things without a reason either. Are you flaming/trolling Ken? I sure hope not.

No it doesn't. It has part of its launch software set... With Gran Turismo 5 also rumored to be usable with it. I think so far there is one game confirmed... Resident Evil 5. Which is by no means a bad choice. Im surprised the WIi didn't get a RE5: Wii Edition actually.

Why do you think this is?

I don't need to troll Ken, he trolled himself, that's why he's no longer at Sony, lol Even if you include GT5, it still doesn't have the games to target the expanded audience, its games are targeting the core audience

I agree with you on that one actually. And GT5 doesn't go to just the core, it goes to both markets. Thats how the games manage to sell massive amounts.

Well we don't know if it will sell massive amounts, the only GT on PS3 sold about 3 million, it was on the PS2 that GT sold over 10 million, on a console with over 130 million units sold, so actually not a huge attach rate

GT5:Prologue has sold just under 4 million including downloads. For comparison, GT4:Prologue sold 1.36 Million.

GT4 ended up with over 10 Million sales.



                            

Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
saicho said:

1. I don't know Avinash.

2. The thread has turned into a childish play between you and Avinash. Again. When Avinash finally brought up a valid point, you continued mocking it which is the only point I called you out on. Can you enlighten me how Avinahs was trolling by providing the Miyamoto article?

1. You are a lucky guy.

2. The thread turned into me mocking him and his usual time machine stuff. Also, i never said the link was trolling. I gave him a bit of evidence to show that the guy aint always right


lol, you think he isn't right about the console he's helping to design? lol

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

saicho on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
saicho said:

1. I don't know Avinash.

2. The thread has turned into a childish play between you and Avinash. Again. When Avinash finally brought up a valid point, you continued mocking it which is the only point I called you out on. Can you enlighten me how Avinahs was trolling by providing the Miyamoto article?

1. You are a lucky guy.

2. The thread turned into me mocking him and his usual time machine stuff. Also, i never said the link was trolling. I gave him a bit of evidence to show that the guy aint always right

2. which is why I quoted your second post, not the first one, although the so-called evidence can be argued. Miyamoto wouldn't have any influence on how many copies a game can sell. However, he would definitely have a lot of influence on when Nintendo's next console will be released.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
saicho said:

1. I don't know Avinash.

2. The thread has turned into a childish play between you and Avinash. Again. When Avinash finally brought up a valid point, you continued mocking it which is the only point I called you out on. Can you enlighten me how Avinahs was trolling by providing the Miyamoto article?

1. You are a lucky guy.

2. The thread turned into me mocking him and his usual time machine stuff. Also, i never said the link was trolling. I gave him a bit of evidence to show that the guy aint always right


lol, you think he isn't right about the console he's helping to design? lol

Well him hinting it is a while off could mean 1 year. 2 years. Who knows?

I gave you something to show that these people arent always right in what they say. I even gave you a comment from Ken Kutaragi.