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Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Also Miyamoto hints that the next Nintendo console is a while off

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2009/id2009111_025798.htm?chan=innovation_innovation+%2B+design_top+stories

Miyamoto also thought Wii Music/ Animal Crossing would be amazingly amazing for sales.



                            

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Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Also Miyamoto hints that the next Nintendo console is a while off

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2009/id2009111_025798.htm?chan=innovation_innovation+%2B+design_top+stories

Miyamoto also thought Wii Music/ Animal Crossing would be amazingly amazing for sales.


True, but he's probably very involved in the console development, so if he's saying that its still much they can do with the Wii, it'll be a while befor e their next console

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Also Miyamoto hints that the next Nintendo console is a while off

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2009/id2009111_025798.htm?chan=innovation_innovation+%2B+design_top+stories

Miyamoto also thought Wii Music/ Animal Crossing would be amazingly amazing for sales.

True, but he's probably very involved in the console development, so if he's saying that its still much they can do with the Wii, it'll be a while befor e their next console

Pachter is also very involved with the industry itself, not just Nintendo. He says Wii HD will be out by late next year.

I know who i believe!



                            

Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Yeah, but two things, first PS3 won't sustain these sales for more than a year, so after next year at the latest, it will decline, might even faster if 360 price cuts a lot, since their libraries are almos the same, then on top of that, a new Playstation will be out by 2012-13, at which point, PS3 sales fall off, since unlike the PS2, PS3 was never market leader and won't have the same momentum as the PS2

Yeah, but two things, first Wii wont sustain these sales for more than a year (again), so after next year at the latest, it will decline (again), might even faster if PS360 price cuts a lot, since their libraries tend to have more diversity, then on top of that, a new Nintendo console will be out by 2011-2012, at which point, Wii sales will fall off, since thats what always happens.

C whut i did thur?

Even if it declines, Wii will still be the market leader, not to mention if the Wii vitality sensor is a hit, which is likely considering Nintendo's other peripherals for the Wii, Wii could see a rise not a fall, also diversity, what you talkin about willis? Also Why would nintendo launch a new console in 2011 or 2012? In fact they are more likely to launch last.

Even is PS3 does decline, it will still have Agent, i mean, it is being hyped up as the next Grand Theft Auto, and seeing that San Andreas sold over 20 million copies, Agent will too! Right? PS3 could see a rise not a fall, and im talking about diversity in game library, lack of party games on PS3 is good!. Also, why would Sony launch a new console in 2012-2013? In fact, they are likely to wait another 3 years just to piss you and your predictions off.

Hey if Sony wants to lose money waiting another three years, that's fine with me Also even if it is like GTA, so what, GTA IV didn't even sell 10 million on the PS3, so Agent isn't comparable to something like the potential for the Wii vitality, after all the balance board and Wii motion plus will both get over 20 million sales at least. Actually that's not diversity then, since PS3 doesn't appeal to the expanded audience like Wii does.

Hey, is Ninty want to lose out on probably profits on a Wii2 thats fin with me Also, even if Vitality sensor is like the next big thing, Wii Music didn't sell all that well on Wii, so Wii Vitality isn't comparable to something like the potential for Agent, after all San Andreas did get over 20 million sales at least. Actually, it is diversity, i said a lack of, not that it was non existant... It still has Buzz and SingStar, Wii doesn't have Buzz... Does it!? It cant appeal to the expanded Buzz audience like PS3 does!

Hey, Kenology. I also forgot to add someone to the list along with Atma. Hint hint...

Actually Nintendo would lose out on profits with a Wii 2, Sony on the other hand isn't making any profit on the PS3. Wii music wasn't a peripheral, so nice try, lol, San Andreas was on a different console, so again nice try, lol, Buzz and singstar hasn't brought in many gamers to the PS3, if any, which is why PS3 is copying the Wiimote, lol. I'm not trolling the PS3.

How would they? What is in the Wii 2, how much would it retail for and what specs will it have? Please explain. Wii music came in a phat box, that's all that matters, it smells/looks like a peripheral. How do you know Buzz and SIngStar dont bring in new gamers? Do you do studies on these things? You seem to know a lot mr predictor. Maybe one day you could teach me how you know so much about the future! PS3 remote must be good, its gets the RE5 Wii Edition

And i never said you were trolling PS3... Guilty conscience?


You said add me to the list of Kenology and the list was about people who troll the other consoles It'll retail for 250, same as the Wii, Iwata already mentioned he wants to keep around that price, but it'll be HD, meaning more expensive to make than the Wii, so lower profit margins, better to stick with Wii and its higher profit margins until HD tech is really dirt cheap. Wii Music wasn't a perhipheral unlike Wii motion plus and Balance board, Nintendo Wii peripherals are great sellers, I know that sngstar didn't bring al ot in, because its sales were never like the sales of Wii fit or Wii sports resort, Wii play, etc. RE5 isn't going to push the wand, they need a game that can challenge Wii sports resort or Wii fit, they don't have it

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Also Miyamoto hints that the next Nintendo console is a while off

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2009/id2009111_025798.htm?chan=innovation_innovation+%2B+design_top+stories

Miyamoto also thought Wii Music/ Animal Crossing would be amazingly amazing for sales.

True, but he's probably very involved in the console development, so if he's saying that its still much they can do with the Wii, it'll be a while befor e their next console

Pachter is also very involved with the industry itself, not just Nintendo. He says Wii HD will be out by late next year.

I know who i believe!


Ok, well if you want to believe Pachter, then be my guest, lol

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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FinalEvangelion on 03 November 2009

Very possible. Let's wait until the end of year for judgement.

In Japan, this generation has broken many previous "rules" of console wars.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.

 

Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:

You said add me to the list of Kenology and the list was about people who troll the other consoles It'll retail for 250, same as the Wii, Iwata already mentioned he wants to keep around that price, but it'll be HD, meaning more expensive to make than the Wii, so lower profit margins, better to stick with Wii and its higher profit margins until HD tech is really dirt cheap. Wii Music wasn't a perhipheral unlike Wii motion plus and Balance board, Nintendo Wii peripherals are great sellers, I know that sngstar didn't bring al ot in, because its sales were never like the sales of Wii fit or Wii sports resort, Wii play, etc. RE5 isn't going to push the wand, they need a game that can challenge Wii sports resort or Wii fit, they don't have it

I never said add you to the list at all. Can you quote me saying "Avinash_Whatever needs adding to that list"?
And wait, so you have a time machine!? WOW! You went to the future and saw the Wii2's price and specs!? Is this how you are always so successful in your predictions?
Wii Motion Plus didn't really boost sales all that well for Wii did it? And neither did the balance board. Those peripherals sold well because they were bundled with Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit.
So... SingStar didn't bring a lot of people in because its sales were never like some of the biggest selling stuff this gen? Lol. And how do you know they dont have one? More time machine stuff again? Seriously, that time travel must be messing with your mind...



                            

saicho on 03 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Also Miyamoto hints that the next Nintendo console is a while off

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2009/id2009111_025798.htm?chan=innovation_innovation+%2B+design_top+stories

Miyamoto also thought Wii Music/ Animal Crossing would be amazingly amazing for sales.

True, but he's probably very involved in the console development, so if he's saying that its still much they can do with the Wii, it'll be a while befor e their next console

Pachter is also very involved with the industry itself, not just Nintendo. He says Wii HD will be out by late next year.

I know who i believe!

so you are saying the nidustry watcher has more knowledge on the progress of the new console than the person who designs the console.

makes great sense.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Carl on 03 November 2009
saicho said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Also Miyamoto hints that the next Nintendo console is a while off

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2009/id2009111_025798.htm?chan=innovation_innovation+%2B+design_top+stories

Miyamoto also thought Wii Music/ Animal Crossing would be amazingly amazing for sales.

True, but he's probably very involved in the console development, so if he's saying that its still much they can do with the Wii, it'll be a while befor e their next console

Pachter is also very involved with the industry itself, not just Nintendo. He says Wii HD will be out by late next year.

I know who i believe!

so you are saying the nidustry watcher has more knowledge on the progress of the new console than the person who designs the console.

makes great sense.

What makes sense is that you call me out for stuff i say when Avinash has spouted his usual bullshit for most of the thread.

Makes great sense



                            

Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009

You said hint hint, it was pretty clear you were talking about me as you were quoting me.

No, but Iwata has already said it would have HD and that he would keep the price no more than $250, in fact he's been saying both for a while.

Exactly, and Nintendo makes good games for its Wii peripherals

I've seen the list of games they've announced so far for the PS3 wand, nothing on there that can compete with stuff like Wii fit and Wii sports



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)