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Here's an idea that I guarantee no-one else is doing and would draw traffic here in a heartbeat... copyrightable even...

Grab the individual reviews from the top 10 or 15 magazines from around the globe... average them up to a 10 or 100 or whatever number you want. Provide each review in a list as an individual contributor to the total composite you are coming up with in the total. So, say for example you use 10 magazines for Halo 3 and you get a spread of 8.9 to 10. with an average of 9.3.... That's standard fare... but THEN....

Compare each magazine to the composite -- under/over percentage. I.e. IGN +10% over composite. Play Magazine -12% under composite. But wait, there's more...

Also add console specifics... This is a 360 game... Keep a running log of the over/under per game and per platform and keep a running average that also appears with the review.... It would look something like this:

Halo 3 (360)composite score from 10 sources (this could be less if all mags don't cover)
Composite score: 93
O/U Consoles
Magazine Score O/U Composite 360 PS3 Wii
Mag 1 97 +5% +9% -11% -17%
Mag 2 93 - -1% +7% -11%

How cool would that be?

This would be called, in my honor, of course, the KNRanking System, lol. Or, you could just steal the idea and I'll let you slide.



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One thing that would be an interesting idea is to feature 1 random game from the database every day on the front page. Encourage people to rank it and add to it. Kind of like the poll. This would help fill out scores fast if that is waht you are looking for.



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I like it KN, but wouldn't it be a lot of work to implement and keep track of? There are only so many mods, and users would most likely abuse the system. Then again, if we had a posting requirement (say, 250 posts) for uploading scores, and we tracked who uploaded them, that should solve that small issue.



@ioi

about the reader reviews

we could have IGN type stuff

where there are like PS3 "editors" who write reviews for ps3 games

n so on...

I would be interested in being a part of the Ps3 review sections, if you decide to implement that...

+ you can check the reviews n make sure no fanboyistic stuff is in them



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kn said:
Here's an idea that I guarantee no-one else is doing and would draw traffic here in a heartbeat... copyrightable even...

Grab the individual reviews from the top 10 or 15 magazines from around the globe... average them up to a 10 or 100 or whatever number you want. Provide each review in a list as an individual contributor to the total composite you are coming up with in the total. So, say for example you use 10 magazines for Halo 3 and you get a spread of 8.9 to 10. with an average of 9.3.... That's standard fare... but THEN....

Compare each magazine to the composite -- under/over percentage. I.e. IGN +10% over composite. Play Magazine -12% under composite. But wait, there's more...

Also add console specifics... This is a 360 game... Keep a running log of the over/under per game and per platform and keep a running average that also appears with the review.... It would look something like this:

Halo 3 (360)composite score from 10 sources (this could be less if all mags don't cover)
Composite score: 93
O/U Consoles
Magazine Score O/U Composite 360 PS3 Wii
Mag 1 97 +5% +9% -11% -17%
Mag 2 93 - -1% +7% -11%

How cool would that be?

This would be called, in my honor, of course, the KNRanking System, lol. Or, you could just steal the idea and I'll let you slide.

Isn't that basically what Gamerankings does with their "Lots-of-Statistics" Site Stats?

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Sounds great!

Now, about mods adding polls......?



 

 

Is there any chance that games that obviously deserve high scores can't get a rating below 5?

It is INCREDIBLY annoying seeing games like Halo 3, Metroid Prime 3, and Final Fantasy VII getting scores of 1 just because they want to lower the overall score.



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ioi said:
Well there is no point in just copying the other sites scores is there? Either we try to do something similar / better or we just leave the system as it is. As many have said, the gameranking aspect is more of an add-on than a central feature of the site, the idea being when you click on a game to see it's sales you also get some background info on the game - screenshots, a summary, some reviews, videos and a score. I don't see it as a waste of my time to set up a framework that users can add this information into. One day this could become the complete one-stop database for all things videogame related.

For now then, I'll probably leave the scores aspect as it is. Personally I agree with a lot of the scores, I think many of the game just need a lot more votes.

How many would be interested in writing reader reviews if I made a proper section for it and it was more obviously linked to etc on the site?

Well, if you want vgchartz to have its *own* version of Metacritic/Gamerankings scores from other sites, I think the important thing is to have a fixed list of review sites that can be added.  I'll give one example: Maxim magazine (obviously NOT a video game review magazine) gave BioShock 3/5, or 60%, but neither Metacritic or Gamerankings counts Maxim's review scores so it didn't show up in the composite score (it would have been the lowest score by like 20%). 

If you don't have a fixed list, fanboy types will find random reviews that are either really high or really low (depending on their affiliation) and add those, since there are literally thousands of reviews out there with the proliferation of blogs and whatnot.  So it should be limited.  I think both Gamerankings and Metacritic list the sources they get reviews from, so that would be a good place at least for developing a list of acceptable review sources.



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darthdevidem said:
@ioi

about the reader reviews

we could have IGN type stuff

where there are like PS3 "editors" who write reviews for ps3 games

n so on...

I would be interested in being a part of the Ps3 review sections, if you decide to implement that...

+ you can check the reviews n make sure no fanboyistic stuff is in them

I'm really with this one.

Make usergroups (PS3, 360, Wii, DS and PSP) of 5 (or so) users and let them all seperately rank games and write a short review. I'll definitely would like to be one of the Wii reviewers.

You can divide the games to different subgroups (RPG, Platform, Shooter etc...)

This way the reviews have a benefit of one of the strongest points of this site, the community. 



I like KN's idea... great system