trestres said: Apparently it wasn't that obvious too many, since anyone who dared to say that back then was instantly labeled as a troll and a Nintendo hater. I knew it was bound too happen, I even called 2009 to have less games than 2008 had back then in 2008 and was also called out for that. It ended up being true and that's the biggest problem Nintendo had. They focused too much on the DS and ignored the Wii by supplying mostly ports and sequels. I already think it's too late to revert the situation. They won't ever go back to the level of sales they enjoyed in 2008, since the Wii image has been damaged among the people who buy the most games, the core gamers. Probably by next gen success won't be so high up in their heads that it would blind them like it did this time. They thought that with a couple of "big" (yet unproven) games they would have another whole year of record breaking sales in their pockets. Guess that releasing only 4 new games this year wasn't the smartest move to make, even less when 3rd party support was and will continue to be second rate. I think they have already given up on the Wii this gen in terms of giving it stellar support. The next wave of games might as well be the last one before they move on to their next cnsole, by around late 2011. DSi is already not getting any future support save for Golden Sun 3, so the DS's successor might arrive by the end of next year.

See, i don't think that this is the case at all, that the people bitching the loudest about the Wii's current lineup are the people who really weren't playing Wii all that much to begin with anyway. This elusive "core gamer" was already doing most of his gaming on the PS360 anyway, and they just like to complain more since E3 08, because that event validated their world view. But certainly these people, with no games for them and hating them so much, did not drive 08 sales to their ultra-high levels. No. The core gamer, the PS360 gamer, never was the driving force behind Wii. The Nintendo core is mostly still on board, i should say, since they'll be there as long as the Nintendo games are (and those are returning in force starting with NSMBWii). The Vitality Sensor, if implemented properly, should open up whole new markets for them.

 

Though i do agree that we're seeing the last great wave of Wii software, from Nintendo, as of now. Galaxy 2, Other M, Retro Studios Project, Wii Vitality, and Zelda for 2010. Project Sora, Pikmin 3, Star Fox, possibly Kirby for 2011, so their transition to the next console will be smoother, but they're not going to string it out longer than that.

@lord: Don't tell me what to do please. I was being critiziced left to right for my predictions and analysis. It's not being arrogant for the sake of being, but showing others how wrong they were. It's like a retribution.

trestres said: @lord: Don't tell me what to do please. I was being critiziced left to right for my predictions and analysis. It's not being arrogant for the sake of being, but showing others how wrong they were. It's like a retribution.

Serious question, and either answer is equally acceptable. Are you doing all this to toot your own horn? Or do you have some other motivation (a category which includes gaining respect, but is not limited to same)? If it's the former, you're doing great. If it's any of the latter, you may wish to reconsider your course of action.

I agree with you trestres and by that end I also agree with Iwata, to further my own agreeing manner I agree with myself.

*pats self on back for agreeing with self*

@noname: It's kind of like being arrogant, but not for the sake of being arrogant. Just enjoying being right in the face of many who labeled me as a troll. But it won't go away from this thread, I won't go around every thread claiming victory. I think this is the right place and the right moment.

trestres said: Admit your failure and move on, it's ridiculous you try to fight a losing point. I didn't say they never had the software, I said it was pretty obvious that from E3 2008 and onwards they didn't have the software. I always say that in between 2006 and E3 2008 everything was going according to the plan, but a serious mess up and lazyness combined resulted in more than a full empty year. With ports and sequels. In 2007 they released more new games than in 2008 and 2009 combined.

Actually you did say never: "They never had the software, otherwise this wouldn't have happened." Also on your point about from E3 2008 onwards that there was a problem, Well I went back, and checked your post history, and you stated only in October 2008 that you felt that the lineup was weak and that you were concerned that it would begin affecting Nintendo's games, at the time it was third parties not Nintendo games you had an issue with, hence my point about it being a year

Listen, Tres, I'm happy your right and I know you got a lot to get off your chest, and I'm a let you rock but I just have to say.

Beyonce was better.



Bringing up my victory over you in our little squabble over FFCC still coming to the Wii as soon as I find that thread, and I was going to say that I didn't rub it in... but I remember I made like 3 threads about it so I kind of did rub it in... in hindsight I'd just like to say that I'm really sorry for that.

Lol... Please, read through my post history again. I said they never had the SW to prevent the drought. They NEVER had it, it's not like they decided not to release the games, they were never there. So don't try to twist my words.

trestres said: Lol... Please, read through my post history again. I said they never had the SW to prevent the drought. They NEVER had it, it's not like they decided not to release the games, they were never there. So don't try to twist my words.

Where did I try to twist your words? First you said never, then you said that you never said never, and now you're saying never again, so I haven;t twisted, quite the opposite. Also I didn't say you were wrong, I said you were right for the past year, but not for the year before, and your own post history shows that only a year ago did you became concerned with the lack of titles for the Wii

yeah but the end of the sentence after "never" was different when u said it.