Wow like someone before me said at least they can say the truth unlike Sony who will keep on saying PS3 is selling like hot cakes!!!lol yeah right in ur dreams sony after u being so arrogant no way....

I was abt to buy my second console for this generation the ps3 but i said to myself that they are to arrogant...so yeah
anyway WII PWNS ALL so NINTENDO U DIDN"T FAIL SONY DID! MS U DID FINE...Next generation I am getting a ninty console and a ms console...FU Sony

Uhm yeah like everyone that read the OP said :P

And i know ur posting that because you want this thread to continue. And since Im not in serious discussions for awhile and because my predictions are wrong I think Nintendo didnt deliver the momentum in Wii Music and AC:CF. But the sales are going up in these coming months after the launch of WSR and now with Wii Fit plus and NSMB Wii I think that helps the Wii to keep up with the momnetum till Metroid other M and SMG 2 arrives.

Sony and MS, while selling low and bleeding money like an amputee: "We're the greatest! Our product DOMINATES the home console market! Blah blah blah..."

Nintendo, while actually dominating the home console market: "We've failed and we can do better."

This is what differentiates Nintendo from the rest.

and not the price drop?

Going by yor logic, MARIO AND SONIC sold more consoles than WSR.

Here's your mistake: it's all about 3rd parties as well... Nintendo can't sustain the Wii momentum with their 1st party line-up ONLY...

It reminds me another discussion we had earlier this week: i was tellin' you that as long as the best multiplatform games can't be released on Wii just as on PS360, Wii wouldn't be a "real" market leader, and that the momentum could disappear just as fast as it has appeared...

You didn't want to believe me, and now that even the biggest heads in the company admit it, you're still refusing to face the truth... and you tell us there's "too much stupidity in this thread"? Easy to blame (or even insult) all the people who don't agree with your narrow-mindness...

Back on topic: of course, Nintendo could release even more games all by themselves... but when a game like Zelda now takes easily 3 or 4 years to be made, and with one of their biggest teams, it won't happen, they just can't do it... unless they create more teams, or hire hundreds of new talents... or buy some 2nd party, or do partnerships with some of the best 3rd parties... they have to MOVE, and be creative with all their past profits...

In the meantime, what is needed is a more powerful hardware, a kind of "Wii+", to convince 3rd parties that all their games have to be released on Wii as well... as long as the Wii will be considered as a totally different market, in a niche of its own, where expensive and exclusive efforts won't do profits, the situation will not miraculously change: the console needs more AAA games, 1st party PLUS 3rd party... that's all...

Did i say you've already won on the debate about pricecuts? Why always bring this up why cant be just friends or something? I  know if you dont know my username  maybe we could be friends if we've known each other personally. So lets be merry about this. OK? This is internet theres no personal here.

The issue isn't that third parties failed to deliver the software 68soul, it was Nintendo that screwed up with animal crossing and Wii Music and not having anything to expand upon the Wiimote/motion plus and the balance board, it has nothing to do with third parties, if Nintendo had been on top of their game, they could have done it themselves.

No sorry, the multiplat games aren't what define the leader, or sell to the widest audience, Nintendo titles have done that, and its the lack of Nintendo titles that continued that trend that is the reason for the lost momentum.

New hardware and even just another Zelda won't do it, the next Zelda has to be able to really define what the motion plus can do, and really take it further than Wii Sports resort, but Nintendo didn't do that earlier with other games, this is where their failing is. New Hardware won't rectify the problem because New Hardware doesn't automatically make new software, you have to have the software that can define and expand on the hardware, and Nintendo doesn't have that yet.

Damn! That's just the best post ever.

You know what? The shame isn't on Ninty, but on the 3rd-parties!

I believe that what Iwata is saying betwen the lines is:

"f*ck you third-parties! if you don't want to earn money, f*ck you!

"We know were we've mistaken: we thought that by now you would be putting your souls on games for Wii, but you aren't. What now? Now we will forget about you and awaken our software factory and overrun the market with Zelda, Starfox, Metroid, Mario. Wii lost its momentum and that was our fault: we trusted you!

"Now we know: forget about the 3rd-parties, release games non-stop and just forget about them: let them try to sell by matching our quality."