that's you, you might be lucky to have only one(in reality, even ONE is NOT OK!) there are far less issues with older PS3 models breaking down vs older 360 models breaking down, those are simple facts. just because they paid for the warranty, it doesn't make it OK, it's not suppose to break that fast to start with, you need to get that into your head and not use that as a counter argument because it's basically saying that a guy can just come over and fk you in the a-ho then put some lotions on it to let it cure and then you will just forget about it, no dood, no, you are not supposed to get screwed in the a-ho to start with!

most consumers won't know or care unless people are being big mouths about it, I personally think a DLC would be nice too, but guess what? PEOPLE WILL BITCH ANYWAYS! "we have to pay extra for the DLC, it should be free!" pretty much nothing on XBL is free and we both know that, no matter what they do, they'll get bitched at.

For the Rec, SO4 = my achels heel, music did warn me though so did my best friend and a few others from MSN ironiclly.

Sorry man, but as you said one break isn't even ok, so the 40 and 80GB PS3's count as well. I don't care about one break. If one breaks, I have another system to play and I get the other one fixed. Thats just me. Microsoft has a three year warranty for broken products....does Sony? When I got my PS3 I was more pissed at Sony for not giving me the choice of compsite and HD cables like Microsoft did more than freaking RROD. Wanna know why? I expected RROD because I have one of the older systems. Now I know how to take care of my 360 once I got it fixed at Play N Trade. In Japan those who have working consoles are getting shafted and thats that. 360 owners who give a damn about the franchises got screwed and thats that. Sony has a right to protect the quality of ported timed-exclusives on their system, but still they never paid. Microsoft deserves at least equal to what they recieved in the long run. As I said before, I am buying all these games on the PS3 anyway, but it doesn't change the fact that it is morally wrong.

One thing I never understood is how the majority of Xbox Live gold owners seem to be content and PS3 owners bitch about paying for things. I feel bad for the day Sony puts a premium cost on PSN. Everyone knows PSN's free status was on account of the PS3's high price. Just wait until next gen LOL. 

I don't get this "bitching" thing. Adam Sessler ranted about it once, and I think it's absolutely terrible. You can absolutely make fun of, and criticize people for the contents of their complaints, but you shouldn't criticize the act of complaining IMHO. Without going preachy and freedom of speech, complaining is essential for consumers to get their own way.

Not buying a product is effective, but if it's also supplemented with complaining, it can allow companies to identify the problem quicker.

Consumers are allowed to think they're entitled to whatever they want. The realities of the market will determine if they eventually get it. But without any complaints, the suppliers can do whatever they want.

The Sony-Rockstar deal wasn't four year exclusivity. Unless by four year exclusivity you mean "PS2 owners get first taste on all GTA games released within the next four years." GTA III arrived on Xbox two years after the PS2 version, Vice City arrived one year after (GTAIII and Vice City were bundled in one package for Xbox) and San Andreas arrived one year after. And yet how many PS2 owners complained that they were getting "betas"? The Xbox versions not only had extras but they also had better graphics since the Xbox has a much greater graphical advantage over the PS2 (whereas the PS3 and 360 are pretty close in that regard. With PS3 having the superior processor and 360 having the superior GPU). Yeah it sucks to miss out on exclusive content but I think 360 owners are overreacting and PS3 fanboys are being silly for throwing around the "beta" label when the exact same thing was happening last generation to the PS2 when their stuff got ported to the Xbox. It's the nature of the beast.

Just like how the Rockstar timed exclusivity deals worked out for Sony, I think the Tales and SO deals worked out for MS. The 360 install base in Japan is like what? 30% that of the PS3 in Japan. But Tales on the 360 sold like 60-65% of what the PS3 version sold. So I'd say that the deal was mission accomplished for Microsoft. The Tales fanboys who feel sore that they ended up buying the console for 1 game are clearly in the minority among Japanese 360 owners. Japanese 360 owners have the highest tie ratio in Japan. So it's clear that the majority don't just buy the 360 for 1 game. But multiple games, including the REAL exclusives. I was looking at a Japanese consumer survey article yesterday and apparently they found that the Japanese 360 owners tended to play a lot more per week than other Japanese console owners and 90% of them kept the console in their room (whereas 70% of Wii owners had their console in the living room). So it's clear that the average Japanese 360 owner is a hardcore otaku (otaku as in geek, not necessarily someone that plays Japanese things) as opposed to a casual player who only plays Tales or Star Ocean on their 360.

Considering the number of visual novels, shoot em ups, exclusive jrpgs (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, TLR might even remain 360/PC exclusive), sim games (Idolmaster) and other Japanese exclusives (Ace Combat 6, Beautiful Katamari), it doesn't surprise me that the 360 has a core gamer following in Japan. It's not good for just western games. Now if only some of those Japan-exclusive 360 games get translated and make their way to North America and PAL, particularly the visual novels. Unfortunately visual novels have a very tiny audience outside of Japan.

original 360s don't even have HDMI dood =P ( a quality HDMI cable is 6 bucks including shipping on buy.com, and I do use wireless, but I didn't wanna buy the stupid piece of shit for 100 bucks for the 360 so I had to run a longggg ass cable, dear god,) it's the simple fact that 360 does break more often so consumers will have a general bias against it when they look at the data, Japanese people are very anal and don't like things breaking, you have to send it in, or have a back up unit which would equal the price of an older PS3, not counting all the years of Live you gotta pay for(and ironman just informed me that I was paying for P2P ad-fest when I still had my 360, I'm so pissed right now beyond belief,)  I've heard far less PS3 problems so of course the warranty plan isn't as long lol, I literally have friends, this is not just one person, this was about, half of my friend list have had the RRoD problem at least once, out of those people, about half have had at least 2 RRoDs, and about 1/3rd of the rest had to send their 360 in 3 times, a few of them got new ones as backup, and I think 1 or 2 of them got E74 on them LOL and I know for a fact that some of the new 360s are having video issues as well, the shit just doesn't end hahaha. I'm one of the luckier ones though, never had a problem with mine, I just stopped paying for Live and eventually sold the thing since it's worthless without Live and I already beat whatever JRPGs that are out currently.

also, life is not fair, we can strive for it, but it will never happen ^^b

and you can bet your ass that I won't be a part of it any longer if they do that, I'm done with having to pay for that kind of stuff when I can do it on PC for nothing and have everything better, I understand that not everybody is as fortunate to be as computer literate but like I said, life is not fair, knowledge will always get you more for giving out less =P PC gaming is here to stay, and not as bound to console changes unless you are a crazy person that buys new techs every few months.

I've always wondered why you hate Sony fanboys the most. I think I know why now. Indeed, that comment from whatever is just uncalled for.