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Krill on 23 October 2009
ph4nt said:
Krill said:
I have a 24" iMac. My only regret is that I didn't move to Apple sooner. I've had this thing 2 years now and never needed to do a fresh install. I've never had a virus. The screen is beautiful. It runs almost silent. The software I use is more intuitive, aesthetically pleasing, and works straight out of the box. My iMac even runs Windows Vista more stable in bootcamp than my old PC. I also know if I were to sell it on eBay now I would get a fair return on it unlike a Windows PC. As for customer service, Apple is in another league. The only thing I would change to now is a new 27" iMac.

Sounds exactly like my PC.

The screen is beautiful, almost silent. Windows xp hasn't crashed on me once, and I haven't gotten a single virus. The software is easy to use and is the OS of choice in the business world so I don't need to learn anything different when going into the industry. It's aesthetically pleasing and easy to use right out of the box.

 

It's funny, mac users are blinded by Apples advertising to think PCs get viruses like crazy and crash every day and are a pain to use, I've never had these problems in 15 years of using Windows (can't even remember the last time I had a crash). Customer service I give to apple, but I've never had to use customer service on windows.

I'll spend the extra $1200 I saved buying a Pc over a mac and go on a nice vacation for a week.

I've used Windows OS extensively and continue to do so.  As you say it is used more in business.  That being said, it just does not compare to Mac OS X.  My previous PC which had Windows XP did suffer from viruses and needed to be reinstalled multiple times.  The Windows 98 OS I had before that was a disaster.  The running joke was that the 98 referred to the number of days you could run the OS before you needed to do a fresh install.  There are reasons the Mac OS runs better.  The hardware is standard and it's a less popular OS so the nerds who write viruses prefer to target Microsoft OS's.

I'm not blinded by Apple's marketing.  I just know what it's like to live with a PC running Microsoft Windows.  If you've never had a virus in 15 years then I suspect you haven't been using the internet for much of that time.  

I've not seen a comparably priced PC that rivaled an Apple for aesthetics and if you have a quality 24" iPS screen as part of your PC build then I don't think you will have $1200 change.  



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Truballa on 23 October 2009
Krill said:
ph4nt said:
Krill said:
I have a 24" iMac. My only regret is that I didn't move to Apple sooner. I've had this thing 2 years now and never needed to do a fresh install. I've never had a virus. The screen is beautiful. It runs almost silent. The software I use is more intuitive, aesthetically pleasing, and works straight out of the box. My iMac even runs Windows Vista more stable in bootcamp than my old PC. I also know if I were to sell it on eBay now I would get a fair return on it unlike a Windows PC. As for customer service, Apple is in another league. The only thing I would change to now is a new 27" iMac.

Sounds exactly like my PC.

The screen is beautiful, almost silent. Windows xp hasn't crashed on me once, and I haven't gotten a single virus. The software is easy to use and is the OS of choice in the business world so I don't need to learn anything different when going into the industry. It's aesthetically pleasing and easy to use right out of the box.

 

It's funny, mac users are blinded by Apples advertising to think PCs get viruses like crazy and crash every day and are a pain to use, I've never had these problems in 15 years of using Windows (can't even remember the last time I had a crash). Customer service I give to apple, but I've never had to use customer service on windows.

I'll spend the extra $1200 I saved buying a Pc over a mac and go on a nice vacation for a week.

I've used Windows OS extensively and continue to do so.  As you say it is used more in business.  That being said, it just does not compare to Mac OS X.  My previous PC which had Windows XP did suffer from viruses and needed to be reinstalled multiple times.  The Windows 98 OS I had before that was a disaster.  The running joke was that the 98 referred to the number of days you could run the OS before you needed to do a fresh install.  There are reasons the Mac OS runs better.  The hardware is standard and it's a less popular OS so the nerds who write viruses prefer to target Microsoft OS's.

I'm not blinded by Apple's marketing.  I just know what it's like to live with a PC running Microsoft Windows.  If you've never had a virus in 15 years then I suspect you haven't been using the internet for much of that time.  

I've not seen a comparably priced PC that rivaled an Apple for aesthetics and if you have a quality 24" iPS screen as part of your PC build then I don't think you will have $1200 change.  

i co-sign what you said cant be using the internet! I mean like everyday i get something pisses me off.... im thinking its only gonna be a matter of time til them nerds get windows 7



jefforange89 on 23 October 2009
Krill said:
ph4nt said:
Krill said:
I have a 24" iMac. My only regret is that I didn't move to Apple sooner. I've had this thing 2 years now and never needed to do a fresh install. I've never had a virus. The screen is beautiful. It runs almost silent. The software I use is more intuitive, aesthetically pleasing, and works straight out of the box. My iMac even runs Windows Vista more stable in bootcamp than my old PC. I also know if I were to sell it on eBay now I would get a fair return on it unlike a Windows PC. As for customer service, Apple is in another league. The only thing I would change to now is a new 27" iMac.

Sounds exactly like my PC.

The screen is beautiful, almost silent. Windows xp hasn't crashed on me once, and I haven't gotten a single virus. The software is easy to use and is the OS of choice in the business world so I don't need to learn anything different when going into the industry. It's aesthetically pleasing and easy to use right out of the box.

 

It's funny, mac users are blinded by Apples advertising to think PCs get viruses like crazy and crash every day and are a pain to use, I've never had these problems in 15 years of using Windows (can't even remember the last time I had a crash). Customer service I give to apple, but I've never had to use customer service on windows.

I'll spend the extra $1200 I saved buying a Pc over a mac and go on a nice vacation for a week.

I've used Windows OS extensively and continue to do so.  As you say it is used more in business.  That being said, it just does not compare to Mac OS X.  My previous PC which had Windows XP did suffer from viruses and needed to be reinstalled multiple times.  The Windows 98 OS I had before that was a disaster.  The running joke was that the 98 referred to the number of days you could run the OS before you needed to do a fresh install.  There are reasons the Mac OS runs better.  The hardware is standard and it's a less popular OS so the nerds who write viruses prefer to target Microsoft OS's.

I'm not blinded by Apple's marketing.  I just know what it's like to live with a PC running Microsoft Windows.  If you've never had a virus in 15 years then I suspect you haven't been using the internet for much of that time.  

I've not seen a comparably priced PC that rivaled an Apple for aesthetics and if you have a quality 24" iPS screen as part of your PC build then I don't think you will have $1200 change.  

Were you looking at tons of porn and torrenting programs from dubious locations or something?

The only problems we've ever had, ever, would be my brother and my sister getting shit from Limewire or whatever.



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Mudface on 23 October 2009

You really have to go some to get a virus these days.



SciFiBoy on 23 October 2009

im thinking of getting Windows 7 on my PC/Laptop (or maybe both), how does one upgrade from XP to 7? and can I do it and keep my data?



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Mudface on 23 October 2009

You'll be better off with a clean install. Back up your data to an external hard drive/ DVD(s)/ flash drive/ partition; make sure you've got installation discs or downloaded files for all the programs you want to transfer and go for it.



SciFiBoy on 23 October 2009
Mudface said:
You'll be better off with a clean install. Back up your data to an external hard drive/ DVD(s)/ flash drive/ partition; make sure you've got installation discs or downloaded files for all the programs you want to transfer and go for it.

ok, cool, thanks



Infamy79 on 23 October 2009

As for the virus issue, I've been running W7 for 4 months now, I haven't installed any AntiVirus client and use IE8 for all my browsing. Haven't had a single problem with viruses or malware.

Given I ran Vista for 3 years with Symantec Endpoint and never had a single quarantined item so I think I've been pretty safe for a while now. The entire redesign of Vista was to make it more secure. I work in IT and to be honest I can't actually recall seeing any virus outbreaks on a Vista PC at any of my clients (over 1200 systems managed) since it came out.



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thx1139 on 24 October 2009
Senlis said:

I get tired of the whole "Apple is more expensive than PC's".  People are usually comparing them to crappy E-machines out of wall-mart.

I picked a Sony computer off of Amazon.  I consider Apple computers to have better components than Sony, but Sony is one the highest quality PC manufacturers (therefore more expensive than e-machines and Dells).

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VPC-L117FX-24-Inch-Desktop-Windows/dp/B002PHM572/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1256260065&sr=1-2
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MB953LL/A?mco=MTMzNzY5NDA

As you can see, for 2000$ they are very comparible.  The Sony has 2GB more RAM, BlueRay and a touchscreen.  The Mac has a bigger screen and a much better video card.

Like I said before, these are just two computers I found to compare.  I didn't find any Mac that was on sale or some website that sells them for really cheap.

Simply put, Mac does not produce cheap computers.  That is why people think they are more expensive than PC.  However, find a PC that matches a Mac in quality of parts and power, and the Mac is usually slightly cheaper. 


Actually Sony machines are pretty crappy.  Have had several Sony laptops and desktops.  Never again. Most problem prone computers we ever purchased.



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Squilliam on 24 October 2009

^ Also they rank quite low on their customer service and they were amongst the last to inform their customers of the problems with the Nvidia GPUs in their laptops. Even Apple beat them to that mark, which is pretty bad considering how bad Apple is with handling bad news.



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