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Forums - Gaming - The reality of DVD vs Blu Ray vs Digital Distibution. As of October 20 2009

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Anyhow, for people not able to google, only bribes to studios to make them join HD-DVD were several tens or even hundreds millions for each.
About losses, it has been written thousands times how MS blurs them in reports, one method is that big all-purpose cauldron called "Corporate-level activity"(*).

 

Edit: (*) http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar09/10k_fr_not_21.html   -   Note that in previous years reports MS explained, though always in small print, a lot better what "Corporate level activity" consists of.

 



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DVD will stay for a while, it's not like the VCR-DVD change where it was completly different. Eventually Blu-Ray will be the standard. DD is going to overtake the handhelds as long as it's done well.



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The problem with comparing DD vs dvd/blu-ray statistics is there is a lot of content not available on physical media. Newcasts, podcasts, youtube, previews, reviews, the list goes on. All available via DD not dvd/blu-ray. The gap will grow over time.

Another point is that there may be many views not counted as sales. Suppose I watch a season of lost on Hulu. That is not counted as a sale. However that probably means I won't buy the dvd. In effect, it's a lost sale but makes revenue via advertising.

I bet if you counted views in the statistics, the growth in internet enabled video watching would be staggering. Back in April 2009, the year over year growth of Hulu was over 490%. Now that's growth to talk about!



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HD was ahead of its time, disks are expensive, the equipment to play it is expensive, I'd say most TV stations still broadcast in SD rather than HD. HD systems has to take the place of SD equipment in price for it to be mainstream, and it is still barely starting to.




damndl0ser said:
whatever said:
I'll never buy a standard DVD again and I don't do DD as the quality is just not there yet. Plus I don't have the disc space.

This holiday season will be huge for blu-ray, then selnor will need to find something else to spin.

????????????

 

We aren't talking about streaming video here.  The quality of Digital Downloads is atleast as good as regular DVD's.  LOL....

I was stating the DD is not at the quality of BR, not of standard DVD.

Also, from the article "Digital distribution, which includes online downloads and streaming as well as cable video-on-demand..."

You should learn to read or you will look like an idiot.



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whatever said:
damndl0ser said:
whatever said:
I'll never buy a standard DVD again and I don't do DD as the quality is just not there yet. Plus I don't have the disc space.

This holiday season will be huge for blu-ray, then selnor will need to find something else to spin.

????????????

 

We aren't talking about streaming video here.  The quality of Digital Downloads is atleast as good as regular DVD's.  LOL....

I was stating the DD is not at the quality of BR, not of standard DVD.

Also, from the article "Digital distribution, which includes online downloads and streaming as well as cable video-on-demand..."

You should learn to read or you will look like an idiot.

Nothing I said was wrong.  The quality of DD is acceptable to the majority of people out there.  



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Uhhh I hate Digital Distribution. I will continue to support Blu-ray and DVD. I like having the physical disk.



Ofcourse DD is the future but Bluray will be big it will be bigger the next few years then DD. There are many reasons first of all downloading movies is nothing new the people do it for 10 years or longer.

People which download movies can the download easily for free.

the Bluray offers you something which simply cant be offered now from an other media. Premium Quality.

I would NEVER buy a Movie via some Platform atleast not now there are many factors which are negativ. The people that downloaded Movies via torrent have no reason to pay for it. The other people definetly still prefer DVD not everywhere on the planet is the Connection good enough and stable enough the second thing is that only a small minority of people have Consoles or PCs on the TV. I am speaking of 500 Mio Europeans 130 Mio Japanese and 300 Mio Americans. Compared to this numbers the Number of Consoles is a joke.

A lot of people still dont use their PCs daily or know much about it. A Dvd can be bought for 5 Euro in a Supermarket thats for a lot of people way more convinient as downloading from a platform. Such Downloading Platforms are not really Common a lot of people dont even know one.

Second thing is the people see it like this INTERNET=MEDIA FOR FREE

a Dvd is simple you buy it for cheap and put it in a DVD Player finish.

For everything else you have to Inform you you have to hook up a device on your TV you have to register you. Even if this is only neccessary once its too much stress the people dont see the Advantage not everyone is soo TV addictet that he would really care about it. Its just not that important.

Its just a part of Videophiles which would be interested in the Advantages of DD. And would pay for it even if they could get the same for free.

But those people care about the Quality which cant be delievered via DD. Bluray is just so much better of course the people dont care now this much because Bluray is still expenisve and stuff. But that dont mean they wouldnt care at all if Bluray will just cost 5-10 Euros a Movie the people want the same Quality on VOD Services.

The other thing a physical media is a value itself. It can be reselled easily it looks nice in the shelf. And it makes a feeling that you actually have something.

And the Internet Connections are not as good in the rural areas.

If the media will merge and the Internet will be so stable and quick then ofcourse storage of media will completly disappear everyone will have everything at no time everywhere. And probably the people will just pay maybe some kind of Media Tax.

DD will dominate before that time. But the next 5 years is the time of Bluray and to a lesser extent of DD. I would guess 55% Bluray 30% DD 15% DVD and others.





pastro243 said:

I tell you Im not from the US and I havent heard of NetFlix before they mentioed in these forums. People here rent movies in blockbuster or a similar thing called bazooka which works in a similar way.

It's because here people discuss like the US was the whole phreaking world, same with Hulu, which is only available at guess what country??? The US!!!...



makingmusic476 said:

66.3% of 4% = 2.65% increase
18% of 10% = 1.8% increase

Which means Blu-ray increased in total marketshare by more than digital distribution last quarter.  Which one is more impressive now?

I think that math is off, frankly.

It's more like the absolute BD revenue going up 66.3%, ending being 4% of the total absolute revenue. The final 4% figure depends on the total market, while the increase doesn't. Same for the DD numbers.

Plus, increases are always calculated from the previous time point, thus it's something like: BD new value= 166.3% * old value

Still, you're right that in absolute terms BD slightly edged out DD when it comes to revenue increase: about $64.2M vs about $64M.



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