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Noobie said:
justinian said:

Heavy hitters like Modern Warfare2 and FIFA can hurt an exclusive.

I think they did it right.

but i think an exclusive with MW2 n FIFA it could have given more reason for a person to buy PS3.. now both XBOX n PS3 has identical games n why one should choose PS3 over XBOX when XBOX is still $100 cheaper for the basic model..

It's pretty clear that the biggest barrier between a consumer and owning a PS3 was the price. They addressed that with the Slim. I don't think an influx in exclusives would have helped sales anymore than they will when releasing them separately. As for the 360 and PS3 having the same games, go into Best Buy. They have very different gaming libraries so I dont know what you are talking about. Games don't disappear after a month of release. 



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You will never know, untill Christmas sales.

But wasn`t half a million in US alone enough?
PS3 is not a Wii, and still pretty far from PS2.
However, after so much media hate/doom it`s doing good.

PS3 actually is doing awesome in Europe, well, atleast in Germany, where i August-September PS3 outsold x360 1:4 and Wii 1:2.

Yeah, sure with released Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, The Last Guardian, AGENT - PS3 would perform phenomenally this Christmas season.

But maybe Sony don`t want to sell THAT many PS3s? I mean, if they lose 10-20$ on each sold PS3 slim and if in March they won`t be losing money... Then, well you know. It`s better this strategy, which Sony has chosen.



ZorroX said:
e i August-September PS3 outsold x360 1:4 and Wii 1:2.

Yeah, sure with released Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, The Last Guardian, AGENT - PS3 would perform phenomenally this Christmas season.

Agent this that wtf has any one even seem a freaking pic of it, for all you know it might be a all out failure.

And only Gow and GT would have done phenomenally this xmas and they will do that regardless when they are released.  

 



You doubt Rockstar Games?

Also, i was referring more to phenomenal PS3 sales, not software sales.
Software will do ok in any way, if a game is reeally good, it will sell 1-3 mln. on PS3 in long term.



I think it's better that they've waited with some exclusives, because there are so many I want (Uncharted 2, R&C and GT5 among them), but I wouldn't have been able to buy them all the holiday season, even if they were all out. This way, I can enjoy R&C: ACIT and Uncharted 2, while GT5 will be there for me when I need a new game.



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CGI-Quality said:
Noobie said:
jbrist said:
So you're saying the only exclusives released this fall are Uncharted 2 and Rachet & Clank ?

How about Demon's Souls and the God of War Collection, they're being talked about quite a bit, and then there's like, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, I'd be suprised if it moves ANY consoles since they seem to sell so bad, but hey, it convinced my mate to buy a PS3 Slim... and then how about Wipeout HD Fury on Bluray, my mate didn't believe me it was being released on bluray since he's a Wipeout fanatic, and never had a PS3, and he hates downloading games, and he's buying one this weekend with his paycheck, lol o.O
Then there's also EyePet, it's definitely got the marketing since I see it on every bloody channel I watch, and I'm sure it'll attract people to play it, not sure who, but people will, lol.

And then as other people have said, the older exclusives are cheap now, they just need more advertising on the bigger ones, like LittleBigPlanet for a start, Sackboy is like the mascot of PS3, and I think he deserves alot more attention than he's had...

So if you ask me, the PS3 is doing fine in terms of sales, and the big hitters next year will see them rocket again !

sorry i forgot Demon Soul but its not a main stream hit.. it is more of surprise hit...

Just think if Sony had Heavy Rain for September

Uncharted 2 plus R&C for October

God of War 3 for November

GT5 in December in EU & FFXIII in Japan in December.. than that could have been an awesome Holidays with the price cut n Slim.. we would have seen some huge numbers then.

 

 

 

That would have been too much. Sony learned that lesson already, see Holiday 2008. If Resistance 2, LBP and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift was too packed, imagine what Uncharted 2, GT5, GOWIII, FFXIII (Japan), Demon's Souls, HEAVY RAIN, and R&C would have been like this year. Too packed...

 

Forgive me if i'm wrong but a comment like "I think Sony learned that lesson already, see Holiday 2008" is completetely wrong. Sony have been in this business for 15 years now and had pretty much a majority of the marketshare within that timeframe. If they hadn't learnt the lesson more than 10 years ago they won't now.

 



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I dunno I think they did enough. They are beating the 360 in sales and they put out one of the best reviewed games ever as well as a solid R&C game.



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Noobie said:
jbrist said:
So you're saying the only exclusives released this fall are Uncharted 2 and Rachet & Clank ?

How about Demon's Souls and the God of War Collection, they're being talked about quite a bit, and then there's like, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, I'd be suprised if it moves ANY consoles since they seem to sell so bad, but hey, it convinced my mate to buy a PS3 Slim... and then how about Wipeout HD Fury on Bluray, my mate didn't believe me it was being released on bluray since he's a Wipeout fanatic, and never had a PS3, and he hates downloading games, and he's buying one this weekend with his paycheck, lol o.O
Then there's also EyePet, it's definitely got the marketing since I see it on every bloody channel I watch, and I'm sure it'll attract people to play it, not sure who, but people will, lol.

And then as other people have said, the older exclusives are cheap now, they just need more advertising on the bigger ones, like LittleBigPlanet for a start, Sackboy is like the mascot of PS3, and I think he deserves alot more attention than he's had...

So if you ask me, the PS3 is doing fine in terms of sales, and the big hitters next year will see them rocket again !

sorry i forgot Demon Soul but its not a main stream hit.. it is more of surprise hit...

Just think if Sony had Heavy Rain for September

Uncharted 2 plus R&C for October

God of War 3 for November

GT5 in December in EU & FFXIII in Japan in December.. than that could have been an awesome Holidays with the price cut n Slim.. we would have seen some huge numbers then. 

I'm not sure what you're asking for... Nobody has had a lineup like that this whole generation. There has never been 4 huge games in a row like that, and it would actually hurt each other financially.

PS3 slim sales actually sold more than Sony has this entire generation outside of holiday weeks, and has come pretty close to what they sold during the first xmas' highest week. Not only that but the sales are up 30% over last year this week, and (i forget really but...) near 118% over what they did during the same time period last year. They outsold the wii for a few weeks and even overcame the weekly sales gap with the 360.