| MonstaMack said: Dude I was 5'6 and 160lbs and the thing claims im overweight. Yet the average American is like 30lbs+ more then me. |
I'm 6'1" and 165lbs and I'm pretty well built. O_o. Unless you're buff as hell, you're overweight.
KingArthur said:
Actually body fat percentage of 20 is normal. Not many professional athletes have single digit fat percentages. |
20% is the upper limit of normal.
I'm overweight at 152lbs even though my body fat percentage is between 16-17% with a water percentage of 60+%. And by no means am I anywhere near what I'd need to be to fight at my weight class of 145lbs.
In the photo posted, Overeem is definitely in the single digits; you can tell by how cut he is. And even though he weighed in at 225lbs, he probably still weighed over 240lbs the day of the fight when the photo was taken.
GSP is definitely in the single digits as well when he fights. Same for Matt Hughs in his prime. Plenty of other examples.
Virtually all professional boxers in the lower weight classes (feather, bantam, etc.) are without a doubt in the single digits when they fight. There simply isn't any room for excess fat without having to give up muscle mass.
At the moment I am 5ft11 and 170 pounds. Wii Fit says I'm borderline overweight (just under it :D) But I'm not fat at all. I was getting a little chubby when I weighed 195 pounds. But it doesn't take into account muscle density.
My friends who's been weight lifting for a while is overweight and almost obese according to Wii Fit (he's also not fat at all).
N.Genckel said:
You can't disagree with facts. But it does look like Obama is going to try and change that, so good on him. |
Fat chance.
Thanks for the input, Jeff.
| greenmedic88 said: 20% is the upper limit of normal. I'm overweight at 152lbs even though my body fat percentage is between 16-17% with a water percentage of 60+%. And by no means am I anywhere near what I'd need to be to fight at my weight class of 145lbs. In the photo posted, Overeem is definitely in the single digits; you can tell by how cut he is. And even though he weighed in at 225lbs, he probably still weighed over 240lbs the day of the fight when the photo was taken. GSP is definitely in the single digits as well when he fights. Same for Matt Hughs in his prime. Plenty of other examples. Virtually all professional boxers in the lower weight classes (feather, bantam, etc.) are without a doubt in the single digits when they fight. There simply isn't any room for excess fat without having to give up muscle mass.
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No, 25% would be the upper limit of normal.
Not all professional athletes compete in sports which have weightclasses.. but for those athletes who have to cut weight in lower weight classes, you are most likely correct. However their body fat percentages are most likely 8-11%. Of course there is always a ricky hatton with 25% body fat. ;)
Does the guy on left look obese?
He is 6'1 and 233lbs which gives him a BMI of 30,7. That is obese.
Hockey and tackle football players are almost the reverse when it comes to weight. When the trend in the NFL was to have bigger and bigger linemen, NFL players had to literally eat their way into making the cut and keep eating to stay there.
Of course it takes a lot of calories to maintain high muscle mass. Bodybuilders are notorious for this.
Check the chart out though; none are listed as being over 20% (not including women who have a different scale for body fat %).
http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/bodyfatpercentage.html
Feeling fatter yet?! lol
| dsgrue3 said: If you're 5'11 or 6 foot and you weigh 143, you need to hit the gym. That's pathetic. I'm 5'6 and I weigh like 160, and I don't work out all that often. |
Yes master! 
But really, why do we need to hit the gym? What if we're happy with the way we are (and our boy/girlfriends like it too)?
| greenmedic88 said: Hockey and tackle football players are almost the reverse when it comes to weight. When the trend in the NFL was to have bigger and bigger linemen, NFL players had to literally eat their way into making the cut and keep eating to stay there. Of course it takes a lot of calories to maintain high muscle mass. Bodybuilders are notorious for this. Check the chart out though; none are listed as being over 20% (not including women who have a different scale for body fat %). http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/bodyfatpercentage.html Feeling fatter yet?! lol |
Feeling fatter? Absolutely not. :)
I can only comment about the hockey part of that table. We have roughly 60 players on our team/reservers. 2 of us have body fat percentage 9 or less. 9 of us have bf% higher than 15%. Those are measured when we start our training after summer so those results are a bit high. So that table looks ok for hockey players.
Anyhow, the table shows that ideal body fat percentage for non-athletes is 9-15%. Do you really think that 20% would be unhealthy?
| Kasz216 said: There really aren't any facts when it comes to healthcare statistics. Just political spin. If you looke at Demotruk he stated that both the US healthcare sysem is worse, and the US has a worse lifestyle. Yet the US stats aren't very far behind Europe in life expectancy... the difference of which can actually be explained by the fact that the US has a lot more murders. Outside that, the US has higher survival rates for most major causes of death then europeon countries including the big 3 killers that account for most premature deaths. You are more likely to live longer in europe. Yet, if you have a major illness you are more likely to survive in the US. The second is a much better indicator of healthcare if you ask me. Actual treatment of illnesses vs simple life expectancy which can be effected by crime rates and culutral problems like overeating. Also different reporting methods... since pretty much every europeon countries have "qualfiers" on what counts as a baby. If it dies after birth but is too small it is not considered a child. While the US counts any child birthed no matter how small our light it was. |
There's a lot more to life expectancy than the health care you get. There's far too much noise to use that as an indicator, and nobody said that Americans had a lifestyle that led to higher death rates. Even with a much higher murder rate in the US, murder barely makes a difference to the death rate, not that it matters.
As I said in my first post, being overweight may actually increase your life expectancy.
A game I'm developing with some friends:
www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm
It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.
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