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Final-Fan said:
Dgc1808 said:
supermario128 said:
hatmoza said:
I trust Gnizmo this game for some odd reason.

I FoS FF just for being an ass and saying I fucked up when we have no frikkin lead whatsoever. HELLO both doctors died! even if I eventually got guilty results I would end up dead the next day just by providing that info

Gnizmo, 'm putting my faith in you decision this game since your seem sincere. Don't make me regret this. Who do we lynch?

But if you waited a couple days before revealing your role we would have suspects to vote for.....

Kinda odd he just threw it out there, isn't it? Why'd you do that without anything to prove you were even an investigative role? All we know is that you were possibly with prostitute last night...

Oh wow, I just realized how perfect this would be for a fake roleclaim.  He claims that he's the cop but getting roleblocked so he doesn't have to fake any investigations.  And since he's claimed the cop, obviously any sensible roleblocker WOULD keep it on him.  

Also, he's throwing a lot of accusations out there, at me just for apparently being mean to him, and at Dgc for mentioning Falcon (why is this a surprise, and why jump on him now?) right after he questions hatmoza.

I dunno if it's strong enough to vote, but I sure as hell wanna find out if other people find this fishy.   

"HELLO both doctors died! even if I eventually got guilty results I would end up dead the next day just by providing that info

But the thing is, your info is worthless.  The only ones who it affects is cops, and they can't stop it from happening, nor can the whole town.  The only way to stop it is to lynch (or roleblock?) the prostitute, and you have given us ZERO help there.  If you'd refrained from roleclaiming, the prostitute might have targeted someone else letting you actually get some USEFUL information.  But that won't happen now.  You DID "fuck up".  Or you're faking.  

I guess if there's a body snatcher, he could snatch you and he would be targeted by the prostitute instead of you, so that would be a reason to claim so that you could investigate.  But you didn't do it for that reason; for one thing, you fully expect to die tonight.  So, again, you're dumb (panicky) or faking.  

I'm leaning toward faking right now.   

I think we've got something here.

HoS: Hatmoza

@Gnizmo
I can't explain it... you just give off that impression... I've been thinking that you're trying to get the cop to investigate you... but at the same time you could also be using it to make your self look like an innocent and helpless townie that we can ignore... 



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Oh wow. A whole lot has happened.

I must say it's pretty shocking that all of the doctors died. Just bizarre!

Also, the whore role is hilarious.



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supermario128 said:
Gnizmo said:
Probably shouldn't put too much faith in me yet Hatmoza as I suspect you most of all right now. Since no one has accused you of lying about the cop role as yet though I suppose I will take your word for it tonight. More so because we have WoW implicitly confirming your story with the clarification post. Whether or not that was intentional I don't know though.

I am going to go ahead and shift the focus to Zexen right now. He is being exceptionally quiet this game, and j0 died last nght. Last time both of those were true he ended up being mafia. On top of that he convinced everyone to lynch me too. FoS Zexen

@DGC
I have a natural talent for making people suspicious. It comes in handy sometimes, but others not so much. I really wish someone could explain why I sound suspicious to me sometime. I would work on changing it then.

Zexen might have college tonight. Not sure.

 

@FF

I'm starting to think he did this on purpose. Why roleclaim with no known information? He wants us to think he is the cop, or he might really be the cop. Hmm.

Zexen is a timezone ahead of me. I see no reason why he would be in college at twelve o clock at night



Gnizmo: "Since no one has accused you of lying about the cop role as yet though I suppose I will take your word for it tonight."

Well,
1. There is no guarantee that in a game this size there aren't actually 2 cops
2. The genuine cop would be committing suicide by calling hatmoza a liar even if there was only 1 cop for sure. If I was a cop (which I'm not) there's no way I'd roleclaim just to call hatmoza on a fake claim. Today, anyway. If there's a cop out there, maybe Day 3 is good enough if hatmoza is still alive and you think he's lying.



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Final-Fan said:

I take it back, now that I've actually checked the post Gnizmo referred to:  
"A prostitute is a Roleblocker.  It may or may not be Mafia-afilliated.

WoW simply confirmed the existence of the role as laid out in the mafiascum wiki, not that it exists in this game.  (Although, interestingly, WoW said the P "may or may not" be Mafia, whereas the mafiascum wiki implies that it is only Mafia (and called something else, perhaps the Dancer, if pro-town).)

So, I guess I'm on the fence now, until I hear input from others.

It is true. More interestingly when I was role blocked there was no real explanation as to what the name of the role was. The fact that he picked one out of thin air, much like he has in previous games, is weird as well. Combine this with his attempt to get me on his side when I was the first to eye him suspiciously and there is a definite problem with his story. Unfortunately I don't know how exactly to confirm it without killing him. Lynching him might end up being a wash for us anyways considering his role is now useless.



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FF please don't name call, this is a game but I won't tolerate being called dumb.

You got one thing right, there are still roles to protect me, and most likely more cops or a deputy to take my place. If I had stayed quiet and died tonight. You would have lost my investigation for tonight and have never realized there was a prostitute in the game. I haven't made the best choices I know, but this way I can gain the WW and Mafia's atention and have them target me in hopes of being being snatched or abducted making up for our losses day one. Plus, we now have the prostitute to role block anti town assuming she is pro town like everyone suspects.

If I was anti town, I would have never role claimed mr smarty. But when you have both doctors and a bodyguard dead, you really are a dead man as soon as you find a guilty player.

You are wasting your time trying to prove I'm not a cop. Your 5 paragraph arguments are not going to help you this time. Just because I'm one of a very few actve players that is a little more talkative every game doesn't make me an anti town every single game.

Lets hope the prostitute can help us out this time, and lets shift this nonsense away from me this time FF as your really making a fool out of yourself, at least from my perspective.



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Are we really talking about possibly lynching our cop?



Vetteman94 said:
Final-Fan said:
On the other hand Gnizmo has a point about "WoW implicitly [confirmed] your story with the clarification post."

So I guess I'm leaning toward you panicked. If there's a body snatcher out there, target hatmoza!

Yeah but wouldnt having the body-snatcher targeting hatmoza make him worthless?   I didnt think you could do any investigations when you got body-snatched.   So it would be 2 nights in a row with no investigations to help us out.

I don't think that's how it works.  I could be wrong but the way I see it all targetings are unaffected by the swap except that incoming actions are reversed between the two players.  i.e., you can still target out normally, the body snatcher does not roleblock.  

@ insomniac:  I see, if it's common then that means that the difference between his version and mafiawiki's means nothing.  

@ Gnizmo.  Your second and third sentence have added up with all the stuff I've mentioned earlier to let me

Vote Hatmoza

He's being suspicious, and the only alternative to him being a bad guy is that he's being foolish.  I dealt with that last game with axumblade and I dealt with it poorly.  Hopefully if he's a real (-ly bad) cop, there's a (better) deputy out there.   



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We still don't know if there's actually a whore or if you're really a cop. A silent cop on day 2 in a game this big with quite a few protective roles already dead, doesn't really mean much... As for you confirming the prostitute, this could just mean that you've been reading up on mafiascum to find a way to protect yourself. Remember less game with your desperate "Bomb" role claim when you were really a werewolf? Or game 4 when you sacrificed yourself to bring out the cop [or was it the doctor??] so that your mafia friends [I was one of them ] could take him out?



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Very smart, both doctors dead and lynch the cop. Not only are you giving the anti towns an awesome kill but now they are going to get another kill each tonight instead of targeting me.

Good luck town.



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