No, illegal immigrants shouldn't get free healthcare from the universal plan.
badgenome said:
The smartest way would be for the government to get the fuck out of every other area of life that it's currently trying to control when it has no business doing so (the War on Drugs, the War on Lightbulbs, the War on Cheerios, etc.) and to focus instead on the few things it's actually supposed to do, like defending our territorial integrity. |
Actually government does have a role to play in a lot of aspects of our life, in fact if not for the government role, our economy would have collapsed a year ago
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| Avinash_Tyagi said: Actually government does have a role to play in a lot of aspects of our life, in fact if not for the government role, our economy would have collapsed a year ago |
Er... the government caused the problem in the first place. 
And whatever disaster they've managed to forestall, they have only continued to exacerbate in the long term.
badgenome said:
Er... the government caused the problem in the first place. And whatever disaster they've managed to forestall, they have only continued to exacerbate in the long term. |
No, they didn't, the causes were pretty much across the board, sorry (you need to stop getting all your info from fox news) 
Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)
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In my perfect world Rupert Murdoch would not exist.
Avinash_Tyagi said:
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So government intervention in the housing market wasn't a driving factor? Seriously?
LOL YOU PLAYED THE FAUX NEWS CARD THO I GUESS THAT MEANS U WINZ
badgenome said:
So government intervention in the housing market wasn't a driving factor? Seriously? LOL YOU PLAYED THE FAUX NEWS CARD THO I GUESS THAT MEANS U WINZ |
No more than predatory lending and over-leveraging and taking on too much debt by consumers and private companies lack of regulation of shadow banking, like I said don't just take what the right wing sites tell you about the crises, lending institutions didn't have to give out loans to people who had no income and no jobs, they did it because they thought the market would keep going up and wanted to cash in, and people wanto get the loans for the same reason this wasn't the government forcing it
Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)
Universe healthcare can conver illegal immigrants, but it doesnt have to. Since there are American citizens that are not covered by the current plan, its obvious that illegal immigrants will be left out too since they have no personal verification of being included in the plan when they go to hospitals.
Illegal immigrants will continue to recieve free care (by free I mean not paying the bill) from hospitals just as they currently do.
Avinash_Tyagi said:
No more than predatory lending and over-leveraging and taking on too much debt by consumers and private companies lack of regulation of shadow banking, like I said don't just take what the right wing sites tell you about the crises, lending institutions didn't have to give out loans to people who had no income and no jobs, they did it because they thought the market would keep going up and wanted to cash in, and people wanto get the loans for the same reason this wasn't the government forcing it |
Instead, just take what the left wing news sites tell you?
The problem was everyone. The door was opened by the government subsidizing homes loans for those that banks would never have given loans to if the government didn't pay them to do it.
How that can not be blamed on the government in your eyes, is beyond me.
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