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BradyBunch said:
The biggest error in the OP is claiming that there wasnt a formal agreement between Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo completely renigged on that formal contract.

I am tired of arguing about Wii winning this generation. They arent competing with PS3/Xbox. And Xbox/PS3 isnt competing with the Wii. But thats another point.

Make no mistake, the Wii is definately competing with the PS360.



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BradyBunch said:
The biggest error in the OP is claiming that there wasnt a formal agreement between Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo completely renigged on that formal contract.

I am tired of arguing about Wii winning this generation. They arent competing with PS3/Xbox. And Xbox/PS3 isnt competing with the Wii. But thats another point.

I am tired of hearing that argument. Please explain why they aren't competing, and make it good.



forest-spirit said:
BradyBunch said:
The biggest error in the OP is claiming that there wasnt a formal agreement between Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo completely renigged on that formal contract.

I am tired of arguing about Wii winning this generation. They arent competing with PS3/Xbox. And Xbox/PS3 isnt competing with the Wii. But thats another point.

I am tired of hearing that argument. Please explain why they aren't competing, and make it good.

Teh Wii is a toyz!

Honestly forest, I've never known you to be so naive.

The Wii does not compete because it is not a multimedia device and barely qualifies as a console even though it plays video games.

Pfffft. Duh!



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
forest-spirit said:
BradyBunch said:
The biggest error in the OP is claiming that there wasnt a formal agreement between Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo completely renigged on that formal contract.

I am tired of arguing about Wii winning this generation. They arent competing with PS3/Xbox. And Xbox/PS3 isnt competing with the Wii. But thats another point.

I am tired of hearing that argument. Please explain why they aren't competing, and make it good.

Teh Wii is a toyz!

Honestly forest, I've never known you to be so naive.

The Wii does not compete because it is not a multimedia device and barely qualifies as a console even though it plays video games.

Pfffft. Duh!

I guess I'm just old. Back in the old days a console played video games, and...well it didn't do much more.

Oh well, I use my Wii as a multimedia device, but don't say anything to Nintendo.



forest-spirit said:
dtewi said:
forest-spirit said:
BradyBunch said:
The biggest error in the OP is claiming that there wasnt a formal agreement between Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo completely renigged on that formal contract.

I am tired of arguing about Wii winning this generation. They arent competing with PS3/Xbox. And Xbox/PS3 isnt competing with the Wii. But thats another point.

I am tired of hearing that argument. Please explain why they aren't competing, and make it good.

Teh Wii is a toyz!

Honestly forest, I've never known you to be so naive.

The Wii does not compete because it is not a multimedia device and barely qualifies as a console even though it plays video games.

Pfffft. Duh!

I guess I'm just old. Back in the old days a console played video games, and...well it didn't do much more.

Oh well, I use my Wii as a multimedia device, but don't say anything to Nintendo.

Oh, yeah right. Everything used to be multimedia. The Gameboy functioned very well as a make-shift shield from bombs.

Do you see the Wii protecting you from bombs? It's such a step downward.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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Most of Sony actually wasn't even aware of the deal between what was seen Nintendo and Kutaragi. Most of the board was completely surprised and enraged when they found out about both the CD venture and the sound chip for SNES.



theprof00 said:

Well, Nintendo fans, it has been a long time coming, but Nintendo is finally back on top.

You know, I am really glad Nintendo swept up this generation so quickly. Since the Wii was released, it has never been outsold (except for a few minor flukes aberrations i.e. Halo 3/MGS4 opening weeks, PS3 price drop). Now that's saying something, especially after the GameCube was so underappreciated.

But those days are over people, now that Nintendo is back on top, they can work on building up their brand name, and lead these Wii users into the next next generation on the right foot: with the purchase of a new Nintendo console.

Now that that is out of the way, I am going to tell you WHY they DONT deserve it.

It is quite simple. Nintendo pretty much started gaming. Without Nintendo, who knows where we will be? Would any other company have stepped up to save video games from the devestating crash of 1983? Probably, it was an empty market with a lot of customers, and competition only a few years before showed 3 or 4 consoles out at any one time.

What about PlayStation? Where would PlayStation be if it weren't for Nintendo? I think we all know the answer to this one, but let me clarify for those who aren't in the know. Kutaragi developed what became the playstation in secret. It was a side project for which Kutaragi was earning much criticism since Sony thought gaming was pedestrian. It's very possible that Kutaragi "engineered" the "betrayal" by Nintendo, since there weren't any formal agreements between the two companies. The playstation may very well have been created regardless, because Kutaragi was very interested in the gaming business, having developed the technology behind playstation in 1984. Ken also was the man who convinced Sony to return fire at Nintendo, because he egged on the board and doesn't afraid of anything.

 

Reasons why Nintendo DOESN'T deserve first place

  • Nintendo has focused almost exclusively on new gamers, young and old.
  • Nintendo sells pure game machines without forcing expensive nongaming stuff on you like wiisports.
  • Nintendo keeps development costs at a reasonable level and makes around 100$ pure profit on every wii sold, which it uses to fund the production of more Mii games.
  • Nintendo's first party games pushed hardware sales to an unprecedented rate, and then caused the first drop in YoY sales in the past 4 years.
  • Nintendo has the greatest customer service only because of the fact that you could have bought 2.3 wiis at wholesale.
  • Nintendo makes the most durable consoles. It is insanely dustproof. I tried to slowly strangle my wii for a year before I finally had some nice people take it away. It's so annoying when a console can't take a hint.
  • Nintendo hasn't come out with a high budget original game since the gamecube. What happened? NES and SNES introduced so many awesome characters and franchises, and now that's all gone. It would be as if Disney had Mickey playing the lead in "Pirates of the Caribbean", Goofy costarring with Belle as the titular "Beast" in "Beauty and the", and Donald as the "Lion King".
  • "Nintendo's  official seal of quality" is now just "Nintendo official seal"
  • Nintendo has released 2 wii fits and 3 wii sports entries and barely 5 classic franchise entries, Super mario galaxy, punch out wii, zelda,  super smash brothers brawl, and metroid prime 3.
  • Lack of interest in multiplayer. Seriously, what gives?
  • Apple form factor. By far the worst trend in electronics is the use of a white minimal design for casing.
  • Nintendo seriously underestimated how well the console would do among the expanded audience. Generally, selling a console for profit is done to ensure that costs are maintained and recoverable should the system see hard times. Nintendo expected hard times, hence why they made 70-100$ on the wii in America at launch. Instead, they could have upped the GPU and processor for 20-30$ more and made the best system of all time. One that could rival the graphic quality of the 360 or ps3. Of course, Nintendo isn't in the business of making the best home gaming console of all time, business is about money.

 

hope you enjoyed my tongue in cheek analysis of the undercarriage of Nintendo

 

EDIT 2: the wii is a toy

wtf?.. they aint good reason .. Nintendo is on top because they know how to run there business and they got the world into gaming.. unlike there competition "Cough" Sony and Microsoft "Cough" they dont even know wtf there doing.



why should I listen to you? You don't even know the difference between "their" and "there"

and you didn't even cover your mouth when you coughed.




Esa-Petteri said:
Seems like someone finally gets nintendo around here. Nice and insightful post!


lol

Actually
I'm going to critizize your points because i'm bored.


Nintendo has focused almost exclusively on new gamers, young and old.
- Yes that's why we have SMG, VC, Brawl, MK wii, TP, and a multitude of hardcore games coming out.

Nintendo sells pure expensive nongaming stuff on you like wiisports.
-Wii sports was free ;)

Nintendo keeps development costs at a reasonable level and makes around 100$ pure profit on every wii sold, which it uses to fund the production of more Mii games.
-No link no proof.

Nintendo's first party games pushed hardware sales to an unprecedented rate, and then caused the first drop in YoY sales in the past 4 years.
-What?

Nintendo has the greatest customer service only because of the fact that you could have bought 2.3 wiis at wholesale.
-What...?


Nintendo makes the most durable consoles. It is insanely dustproof. I tried to slowly strangle my wii for a year before I finally had some nice people take it away. It's so annoying when a console can't take a hint.
-That doesn't have anything to do with anything.

Nintendo hasn't come out with a high budget original game since the gamecube. What happened? NES and SNES introduced so many awesome characters and franchises, and now that's all gone. It would be as if Disney had Mickey playing the lead in "Pirates of the Caribbean", Goofy costarring with Belle as the titular "Beast" in "Beauty and the", and Donald as the "Lion King".
-SMG
"Nintendo's official seal of quality" is now just "Nintendo official seal"
-Who the hell cares.

Nintendo has released 2 wii fits and 3 wii sports entries and barely 5 classic franchise entries, Super mario galaxy, punch out wii, zelda, super smash brothers brawl, and metroid prime 3.
-And MK wii, theyre also coming out with more. Also, people like you also complain that nintendo won't make new franchises yet whine when they do.

Lack of interest in multiplayer. Seriously, what gives?
-MK wii.

Apple form factor. By far the worst trend in electronics is the use of a white minimal design for casing.
-Really...?

Nintendo seriously underestimated how well the console would do among the expanded audience. Generally, selling a console for profit is done to ensure that costs are maintained and recoverable should the system see hard times. Nintendo expected hard times, hence why they made 70-100$ on the wii in America at launch. Instead, they could have upped the GPU and processor for 20-30$ more and made the best system of all time. One that could rival the graphic quality of the 360 or ps3. Of course, Nintendo isn't in the business of making the best home gaming console of all time, business is about money.
-Not even sure what you're complaining about here.