i want this thread to be closed...there's no point in having to continue this heated debate after such discussion to death. And these fanboy's speculations are stupid while ignoring facts.

You are annoying as hell, I have been reading your posts on this thread and they made a bit of sick in my mouth.I have been gaming for over 10 years now and i can safely say this,Microsoft has runied this console generation,creating ingnorant and loud fanboys like yourself that give gaming a bad name. If you actually were not a peasant and bought a ps3 you would see that the ps3 is better in most aspects. Seen as you can only afford one console i cant take you oppinion seriously. You honestly think a horribly generic survival horror game called Alan wake is gonna shift hw....yeah good luck with that mate. As for halo franchise,odst was the biggest waste of my hard earned cash. A lame storyline with 3 year old graphics engine.GOW 3 will shift consoles.all my mates are getting a ps3 for gow 1 and 2,god knows how much the third game will sell.

oh and after i cleared the sick in my mouth i read your last line and laughed.What will microsofts knockout blow be???

I'm amazed how people still think microsoft can afford to just cut the price of their console which they recently did and it didn't affect the slim's sales as much as expected...even with natal coming and increasing the costs would it really be wise to cut the price again? I doubt microsoft is in the console-business just to throw away money, no matter how much some people want 360 to beat the ps3 MS has to make money to survive, this should be their priority as a business.

I've understood that their 360 arcade-console is being sold at loss allready, would they really want to go further in the red just like sony did with slim? I doubt sony will cut their console price anymore so there shouldn't be a need to make the current consoles any cheaper than needed for either business they could as well give them for free.

When it comes to games both consoles have some pontential system sellers and the only place ps3 can't catch the 360 is the US.

How about by 1 January 2011 the 360 will have outsold the PS3 ww, thats not 3 years.  Perhaps it couldn't be enforced by the mods I really don't know but I'd still bet every vg$ I had on it happening.  His statement implied weekly sales not LTD figures, hence the stupidity of the statement.  Shows you the mindset of these forums when not one of you people posting after his post criticize it for being silly yet pickup on the guy calling it out for being crazy.  As somebody moved these forums over to SDF recently?

you are an embarrassment to sony fans.

the ps3 is outselling the 360 by around 80k a week.  there are about 10 weeks to go until year's end.  these numbers put the ps3 gaining around a million units.  in order to gain between 2 or 3 million by yr end means that the ps3 would need its holiday spike to be its biggest yet while the 360 has no spike.  do you really believe this will happen?  if so you are more delusional than i thought.

will the ps3 outsell the 360 for the rest of the year?  yes.

will it have a higher total sales for 2009?  yes.

will it have a much bigger holiday spike that the 360?  yes.

will it close the gap to within 5 million units?  not a fucking chance in hell.

i think people are forgetting just how big a million units is.  with all the dominance the gap is still over 7 mill.  even if we put the christmas spike peaking at 1 million units a week, that still would probably only cut another million off the gap.  you can expect the 360 to do at least what it's been doing for christmas.  there is just not enough time in the year to do what you hope it will.  now by the end of next year is a different ballgame.

at a certain point Microsoft would not be able to drop the price any more, there is only so much further that it could drop. a great example:

the PS2 IS NOW $100.00 FOR A SYSTEM THAT'S ALMOST 10 YEAR'S OLD

at a point the systems price will stay and that is going to happen to the xbox360 before the PS3.

once that happens, that's it and right now the xbox360 is nearing that point. the xbox360 most likely will remain at the $150.00+ mark for qite some time.

WHat 360 bias are you talking about?

First of all Sony has lost much more money on their current gen console than MS. Plus with many arcade owners buying overpriced HDD, XBL, Wifi MS is able to make a profit. With decreasing PS2,PSP sales and on top the slim bleeding money from sony, Ms can easily cut the price of the 360.

So just because sony lost more money than MS this gen, that means MS can cut the price? That makes no sense whatsoever. Also no one knows just how much the PS3 slim is losing.

also Microsoft has to buy the components from other companies, the hardware still is produced FOR Microsoft, NOT BY Microsoft. that's the problem, Microsoft is a software company not a Hardware company, so there is only so much that Microsoft would be able to cut from the overall cost of the xbox360, because the part's are outsourced.