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themanwithnoname on 09 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
themanwithnoname said:
Carl2291 said:
themanwithnoname said:
Carl2291 said:
elticker said:
Xoj said:
they are just trying to hype forza, they can't match quality of polyphony studio.
sending forza head to head with GT would be like trying to send any FPS at modern warfare.

any fps right so lets pit Halo against modern warfare 2 on xbox 360 no ps3 sales or any other handheld/console. mw2 vs halo 3 sales on xbox 360 and then lets talk. i bet mw2 wont exceed halo 3 which is to date the highest selling title on xbox 360 and a fps. plz dont post without thinking like some people do.

I bet Modern Warfare 2 outsells ODST

What's your point exactly? A better comparison would be Halo 3 or Halo: Reach, and you know it. Yet another example of a crappy comparison you can expect to find on VGChartz. The only valid comparison right now is Halo 3, and MW 2 is likely to come on the short end of that, or at least the 360 version is.

Why not?

They will both be the latest games released in the series.

People compared ODST to Killzone 2, people compare GT5: Prologue to Forza 3. I don't see the difference here.

It is a fair comparison, i could make it worse though if i wanted... And count the PS3 version of MW2 also.

Ha, no it's not. It would be a major disappointment of Modern Warfare 2 did not outsell ODST. You're the one who was bitching about the Prologue comparisons to Forza 3 (which by the way, is a more legitimate comparison than this one because Prologue is the only Gran Turismo title that's been released on the PS3), and now you come in here and use that to justify this comparison? Hypocritical much?

 

Yes it would. But it will outsell it, and by a lot.

You seemed to be okay with KZ2 and ODST comparisons. Why not this one?

They are the latest games released in each series. I don't see the problem.

Go ahead and show me one time where I said those comparisons were ok, and I attempted to justify them.



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StrifeHawkins on 09 October 2009

My apologies, but my point is this GT5 is no Duke nukem forever, gt4 also took 4 years so if ppl are impatient thats they're problem. They can buy Gt5 prologue i think PD have actually worked pretty quickly.



 

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kanariya on 09 October 2009
AlkamistStar said:
StrifeHawkins said:
AlkamistStar> they started in 2006! after tourist trophy!
They also released GT Prologue, GT HD, GT PSP in 3 years??!!

They released 4 games in 3 years and you slag gt who released 2 games which are pretty much the same game play wise?

This is the kind of misinformation ms loves to spread and xbots lap it up without even checking the facts.

Dude stop listening to lies by MS PR
if you want to blame anyone blame sony, for hyping it so early.


Ok... so you want "research"....but didn't do any yourself. Now who's, misinformed?

Here...your research from Wikipedia.

"The game was first revealed at E3 2006 under the name Vision Gran Turismo. In an April 2008 interview, game creator Kazunori Yamauchi revealed that 150 people had worked on Gran Turismo 5 for Three years, with all of Polyphony Digital's 120 employees working on GT5, and the game costing 50 times more to develop than 1997's Gran Turismo.[4]

At Sony's E3 2009 Press Conference, a trailer for Gran Turismo 5 was shown, revealing both the inclusion of NASCAR and WRC but no release date was revealed.[5] In an interview with Eurogamer, Kazonuri Yamauchi said that "We've actually reached a point where we can probably release it [GT5] anytime, except that you can also keep working as long as you want to as well, it's just a matter of timing."[6] According to the official magazine at Tokyo Game Show 09, Gran Turismo 5 is 65% complete."

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I was wrong for saying it'd be in development for 5 years, however it will be over 4 years and some months since development. As for the "xbot" thing...yea, i'll let that slide. They didn't "start" in 2006, they revealed, development was started in 2005. JAPANESE release date scheduled for March 31, 2010, with the North America, and European dates being announced at a later date.

 

Also PD does all the work in house.

Turn 10 out sources most of the modeling work to 3rd party studios.



kanariya on 09 October 2009
StrifeHawkins said:
My apologies, but my point is this GT5 is no Duke nukem forever, gt4 also took 4 years so if ppl are impatient thats they're problem. They can buy Gt5 prologue i think PD have actually worked pretty quickly.

 

Even GT1 took 5 years.



Carl on 09 October 2009
themanwithnoname said:
Carl2291 said:
themanwithnoname said:
Carl2291 said:
themanwithnoname said:
Carl2291 said:
elticker said:
Xoj said:
they are just trying to hype forza, they can't match quality of polyphony studio.
sending forza head to head with GT would be like trying to send any FPS at modern warfare.

any fps right so lets pit Halo against modern warfare 2 on xbox 360 no ps3 sales or any other handheld/console. mw2 vs halo 3 sales on xbox 360 and then lets talk. i bet mw2 wont exceed halo 3 which is to date the highest selling title on xbox 360 and a fps. plz dont post without thinking like some people do.

I bet Modern Warfare 2 outsells ODST

What's your point exactly? A better comparison would be Halo 3 or Halo: Reach, and you know it. Yet another example of a crappy comparison you can expect to find on VGChartz. The only valid comparison right now is Halo 3, and MW 2 is likely to come on the short end of that, or at least the 360 version is.

Why not?

They will both be the latest games released in the series.

People compared ODST to Killzone 2, people compare GT5: Prologue to Forza 3. I don't see the difference here.

It is a fair comparison, i could make it worse though if i wanted... And count the PS3 version of MW2 also.

Ha, no it's not. It would be a major disappointment of Modern Warfare 2 did not outsell ODST. You're the one who was bitching about the Prologue comparisons to Forza 3 (which by the way, is a more legitimate comparison than this one because Prologue is the only Gran Turismo title that's been released on the PS3), and now you come in here and use that to justify this comparison? Hypocritical much?

 

Yes it would. But it will outsell it, and by a lot.

You seemed to be okay with KZ2 and ODST comparisons. Why not this one?

They are the latest games released in each series. I don't see the problem.

Go ahead and show me one time where I said those comparisons were ok, and I attempted to justify them.

I never said you said they were okay, but you certainly don't complain about them.

Not got time to go fully through your history, but a quick search and i found one like what im talking about.

GT5: P + Forza 3 thread, no complaining but defending F3's cockpit view - http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=87110&page=2

No complaining about comparisons when GT5:P is the underdog.

So i ask again, why complain now that it's a Halo game as the underdog?



                            

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AlkamistStar on 09 October 2009
StrifeHawkins said:
My apologies, but my point is this GT5 is no Duke nukem forever, gt4 also took 4 years so if ppl are impatient thats they're problem. They can buy Gt5 prologue i think PD have actually worked pretty quickly.


I didn't take that into account actually...in that case it really hasn't been a long time, i'm going to stop saying that from here on out. Thanks for the clarification.



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AlkamistStar on 09 October 2009
kanariya said:
AlkamistStar said:
StrifeHawkins said:
AlkamistStar> they started in 2006! after tourist trophy!
They also released GT Prologue, GT HD, GT PSP in 3 years??!!

They released 4 games in 3 years and you slag gt who released 2 games which are pretty much the same game play wise?

This is the kind of misinformation ms loves to spread and xbots lap it up without even checking the facts.

Dude stop listening to lies by MS PR
if you want to blame anyone blame sony, for hyping it so early.


Ok... so you want "research"....but didn't do any yourself. Now who's, misinformed?

Here...your research from Wikipedia.

"The game was first revealed at E3 2006 under the name Vision Gran Turismo. In an April 2008 interview, game creator Kazunori Yamauchi revealed that 150 people had worked on Gran Turismo 5 for Three years, with all of Polyphony Digital's 120 employees working on GT5, and the game costing 50 times more to develop than 1997's Gran Turismo.[4]

At Sony's E3 2009 Press Conference, a trailer for Gran Turismo 5 was shown, revealing both the inclusion of NASCAR and WRC but no release date was revealed.[5] In an interview with Eurogamer, Kazonuri Yamauchi said that "We've actually reached a point where we can probably release it [GT5] anytime, except that you can also keep working as long as you want to as well, it's just a matter of timing."[6] According to the official magazine at Tokyo Game Show 09, Gran Turismo 5 is 65% complete."

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I was wrong for saying it'd be in development for 5 years, however it will be over 4 years and some months since development. As for the "xbot" thing...yea, i'll let that slide. They didn't "start" in 2006, they revealed, development was started in 2005. JAPANESE release date scheduled for March 31, 2010, with the North America, and European dates being announced at a later date.

 

Also PD does all the work in house.

Turn 10 out sources most of the modeling work to 3rd party studios.


Also another great point i hadn't known, or taken into account. The development time seems long only when compared to Forza, but in actuality it hasn't been then...wow, i completely missed that. *admits defeat*



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StrifeHawkins on 09 October 2009

Wow man, seriously dude respect + 1, You're alright



 

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JaggedSac on 09 October 2009
AlkamistStar said:
kanariya said:

 

Also PD does all the work in house.

Turn 10 out sources most of the modeling work to 3rd party studios.


Also another great point i hadn't known, or taken into account. The development time seems long only when compared to Forza, but in actuality it hasn't been then...wow, i completely missed that. *admits defeat*

I don't particularly care about this argument, but for this point to matter, the size of the studios would need to be taken into account.



AlkamistStar on 09 October 2009
StrifeHawkins said:
Wow man, seriously dude respect + 1, You're alright


 Thanks!



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