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Slimebeast on 10 October 2009
WessleWoggle said:
I don't see how out of body experiences have anything to do with evolution...

Not directly of course, but in the big picture of world-view and stuff, things that tie together.

But I dunno why Dr Grass brought it up, specially as he said he ain't even religious.



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WessleWoggle on 10 October 2009

Slime, do you think animals ever have out of body experiences?

Hmm...



Slimebeast on 10 October 2009
WessleWoggle said:
Slime, do you think animals ever have out of body experiences?

Hmm...

Maybe?  What do you think?

U had something in that direction didnt u? U floated under your bed or something lol.



WessleWoggle on 10 October 2009

I entered into a dark realm and got attacked by a demon fetus who went into my chest.

I later forced the demon out of my chest with white light and destroyed it with grey energy.






The Velour Fog on 10 October 2009
 angrypoolman said:

I just wanted to know what you guys think the biggest support for evolution is. For something that has never been 100% observed, I find it strange that people accept it as fact. I think you're going to need a tremendous amount of evidence to believe that we came from an amoeba that came from a rock billions of years ago. So what am I missing? Convince me that evolution is a fact.

So much fail...



Let me show you why they call me the velour fog. Hit it.

I met her in a club down in old Soho,

Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola,

C-o-l-a, cola.

She, walked up to me and she asked me to dance,

I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said;

Leela, L-e-e-l-a, Leela, Lee, Lee, Lee, Leela

Leeeeeeeelaaaaaaaa

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Slimebeast on 10 October 2009
WessleWoggle said:
I entered into a dark realm and got attacked by a demon fetus who went into my chest.

I later forced the demon out of my chest with white light and destroyed it with grey energy.


Oh yeah. And u consulted some old witch too, in your neighborhood didnt u?

What's your interpretation of the whole thing?



MontanaHatchet on 10 October 2009

Why is it that the people trying to make arguments against evolution always seem to know so very little about it? It's kind of embarrassing.



 

 

WessleWoggle on 10 October 2009

My personal opinion on evolution is...

Who cares? Nnja training time!



highwaystar101 on 10 October 2009
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:

About wings. Why arent there any species on their way to develop wings, but thousands of species with regressed wings (which have some use, but cant be flied with any more)
(some bugs and other insects, bats, penguins, ostriches, kiwi etc)

I need a good explanation for that, because statistically it doesn't make any sense.


Manusjustus and bdbdbdbd have already answered this so I wont because I want to bring up a different point. Surely the fact that you have acknowledged that thousands of species have regressed wings proves you actually accept evolution. Remember organ evolution doesn't just have to be progressive, it can be regressive too.

 


I'm going to be honest and I really hope that it doesn't offend you. I think you are obviously one of, if not the most intelligent and logical member on the site (and I don't mind admitting that). That aside, I get the feeling with you that you do in fact accept evolution in the back of your mind, but you repress it somehow. When you speak about evolution it's not the same type of denial that many members show, you don't argue in the same way. When I read your arguments I always have a feeling that you are arguing against it but you accept subconsciously, even if you don't consciously.

 


I hope I didn't offend you, sorry if I was a bit brutally honest there.

Thanks for the compliments.

That's a great analysis. There's a lot of truth to it. I admit that as a Christian it lies in my interest that evolution is false, while there's lots of evidence pointing towards evolution. I guess this is why ID was 'invented' basically.

But it's also for technical reasons in evo discussions much easier to argue from a 'let's assume this for a second, however...' methodology, like in the regression of wings example.

(btw just a note, many creationist sort of accept organ and trait regression - I dont remember the term for it, but as long as there's no evidence for 'de-novo evolution' it's okay, and from a relgious point of view regression is part of the defect state of the world - you could say sort of a Satanic devolution, or something, which also explains why people early in Biblical history lived 800 years while now diseases and defects kill us early)

 

 

Oh good, I'm so glad that I didn't offend you. Even though I was being honest, I thought maybe I was crossing a line there. But it's all good.

About the Christian "bias" if you will. I've never understood the whole evolution/big bang Christian thing anyway. Obviously there are a few problems between the two but I believe it was pope John Paul II who said something like...

"Evolution and the big bang are perfectly compatible theories with Christianity, as long as long as you accept god was the creator then why couldn't evolution and the big bang just be his methods of creation?".

I think that was severely paraphrased as it was from memory, but you get the point. If there is a god then why shouldn't these be his methods of creation? They obviously work, regardless of who or what started it.



WessleWoggle on 10 October 2009
Slimebeast said:
WessleWoggle said:
I entered into a dark realm and got attacked by a demon fetus who went into my chest.

I later forced the demon out of my chest with white light and destroyed it with grey energy.


Oh yeah. And u consulted some old witch too, in your neighborhood didnt u?

What's your interpretation of the whole thing?

It was a christian I consulted first as a joke to see what he would say about demons. He said I had to accept christ as my savior before an exorcism would work.  I then consulted a witch doctor spiritual dude who was into judaism and could read hebrew, he had a lot of books on the subject that had situations very similar to mine. With his advice I removed the demon fetus.

My interpretation... It was fun! Now I believe in the spirit world...