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rafichamp said:
Killzone 2 was released in the worst date possible, Uncharted 2 is being released on the best date possible, with the best timing possible, right after the slim price cut

So, you're expecting UC2 to at least double sales of KZ2?  What is the expectation...both games were heavily hyped by ps3 fans...they both got high metacritic scores thus far.  I'm just trying to figure how what standards of success are being used.



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Uncharted 2 will sell well, but I don't see it being a system seller (kinda like ODST was to Halo 3).



@heruamon, Uncharted 2 getting way better reviews then Killzone 2, Killzone 2's pre-order numbers were 500k worldwide, Uncharted 2 will probably have 320k pre-orders in just NA alone. Also add in the 250gb Uncharted 2 Bundle and it will = success.



rafichamp said:
@heruamon, Uncharted 2 getting way better reviews then Killzone 2, Killzone 2's pre-order numbers were 500k worldwide, Uncharted 2 will probably have 320k pre-orders in just NA alone. Also add in the 250gb Uncharted 2 Bundle and it will = success.

So you're thinking it's going to do 1 million+ in week one...making it the 2nd best exclusive for the PS3 at the very least.



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A Bad Clown said:
If sales plummet blame every other game coming out for sucking up their sales. That "Generic FPS 5: WAR Advanced" will steal alot people away. The best of games usually don't sell as well as the millionth sequel of a franchise.

CoD4 was a better game than Uncharted 1, and Infinity Ward is a magnificant developer. Stop hating on Modern Warfare just because you don't like/never played/hated its genre.



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BxN said:
headshot91 said:
killzone 2 was average.
Uncharted 2 is not.
Simples.

How can a game with the best graphics ever seen on a console with some great online depth and gameplay be considered just ''average'' ? It's standing at 91% on metacritic FFS, stop the bs'ing.

 

Uncharted 2 is a step above Killzone 2 but don't be ridiculous.

 1: graphics mean nothing. Sure they're pretty, and they'll get a game lots of attention, but we have games like Halo 3 to help prove that in the long run, graphics don't make a good pair of legs.

 

2: The online depth in it actually isn't very great at all. It used alot of the features that other games already had but didn't really expand on them. It doesn't even have a basic deathmatch mode. You can also reach max rank so fast. When you finally do, you'll see how lacking the game is when it comes to weapons.

Besides all that, console gaming this gen has never been more social yet they left one out major thing: a party system. People became so desperate to team up with friends that they started turning off auto-balance, which resulted in stacked teams pretty much turning the match into a waste of time. By the time they added a feature to team up with friends (it took them ages), it was already too late and people's attention turned to all the other games coming out.

 

3: The gameplay was pretty average if you compare it others. It wasn't just average though.....it was completely stupid and broken in so many ways at launch. The Assault and Tactician classes made the game a massive shitfest. 32 players all equipped with dual grenades in small corridors only made things even worse. I know only some of it has been fixed, but some matches can be still be complete clusterf***s. As for the campaign mode......take away the graphics and you got yourself a weak experience along with some pretty bad voice acting.

 

There's plenty of reasons why the game isn't going strong now. I have a feeling that MW2 is also gonna have a negative affect on KZ2's userbase. Uncharted 2 has potential. Even if the online portion doesn't become a hit, many reviewers are already going crazy about the campaign mode.

 



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Parasitic said:
BxN said:
headshot91 said:
killzone 2 was average.
Uncharted 2 is not.
Simples.

How can a game with the best graphics ever seen on a console with some great online depth and gameplay be considered just ''average'' ? It's standing at 91% on metacritic FFS, stop the bs'ing.

 

Uncharted 2 is a step above Killzone 2 but don't be ridiculous.

 1: graphics mean nothing. Sure they're pretty, and they'll get a game lots of attention, but we have games like Halo 3 to help prove that in the long run, graphics don't make a good pair of legs.

 

2: The online depth in it actually isn't very great at all. It used alot of the features that other games already had but didn't really expand on them. It doesn't even have a basic deathmatch mode. You can also reach max rank so fast. When you finally do, you'll see how lacking the game is when it comes to weapons.

Besides all that, console gaming this gen has never been more social yet they left one out major thing: a party system. People became so desperate to team up with friends that they started turning off auto-balance, which resulted in stacked teams pretty much turning the match into a waste of time. By the time they added a feature to team up with friends (it took them ages), it was already too late and people's attention turned to all the other games coming out.

 

3: The gameplay was pretty average if you compare it others. It wasn't just average though.....it was completely stupid and broken in so many ways at launch. The Assault and Tactician classes made the game a massive shitfest. 32 players all equipped with dual grenades in small corridors only made things even worse. I know only some of it has been fixed, but some matches can be still be complete clusterf***s. As for the campaign mode......take away the graphics and you got yourself a weak experience along with some pretty bad voice acting.

 

There's plenty of reasons why the game isn't going strong now. I have a feeling that MW2 is also gonna have a negative affect on KZ2's userbase. Uncharted 2 has potential. Even if the online portion doesn't become a hit, many reviewers are already going crazy about the campaign mode.

 

Agreed.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
A Bad Clown said:
If sales plummet blame every other game coming out for sucking up their sales. That "Generic FPS 5: WAR Advanced" will steal alot people away. The best of games usually don't sell as well as the millionth sequel of a franchise.

CoD4 was a better game than Uncharted 1, and Infinity Ward is a magnificant developer. Stop hating on Modern Warfare just because you don't like/never played/hated its genre.

How was it a better game then Uncharted? I believe Uncharted was superior to MW but I understand that the question is that of subjectivity.

Do you hear that? It's subjective. Don't contradict others opinions as though yours is absolute.



heruamon said:
rafichamp said:
@heruamon, Uncharted 2 getting way better reviews then Killzone 2, Killzone 2's pre-order numbers were 500k worldwide, Uncharted 2 will probably have 320k pre-orders in just NA alone. Also add in the 250gb Uncharted 2 Bundle and it will = success.

So you're thinking it's going to do 1 million+ in week one...making it the 2nd best exclusive for the PS3 at the very least.

Where did he mention 1 million+ in week one?

 

I'm seeing no where.



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