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dtewi on 05 October 2009
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:

Okay, I have a REAL suspect today. Yesterday I was throwing shit at the wall to see if anything stuck, but today it's an accusation I'm really going to pursue until I get a satisfactory answer. (Or someone else comes up with an even more pressing concern.)

FoS hatmoza
No wait, considering the number of people in here I'll go ahead and
Vote hatmoza
But consider it an FoS.

THE FACTS
On Page 8 (@ 50 posts per page),
1--hatmoza said I was "all over the board with accusations" I was making when I had "nothing to work on"
---When I responded that I had only accused 2 people (at different times) and clearly given my reasons for both, and asked for HIS reasons for saying I was "all over" the place etc., he did not respond.
2--nen-suer blew a gasket due to me talking about Game 5A and threatened to lynch me even if I was truly innocent
---hatmoza defended him
3--hatmoza said that he, nordlead, and WoW were the top suspects [edit: should be "targets"] [edit: and yet not me for some reason]
---nordlead responded by questioning why he and hatmoza would be at risk
---hatmoza's response included the suggestion that if nordlead didn't feel he was at risk it was because he was M/WW

THE THEORY
--His lack of response to my defense is suspicious to me -- as if he just threw out something to try to raise suspicion on me and when it didn't work (I had a strong defense) he completely stopped caring.

--Defending nen-suer could have been a way to try to keep the fire under my feet from going out.

--If hatmoza is mafia, he may have killed norldead because he suspected him of being werewolf.

Guys, I really am trying to get my paper work done here. Stop being so gullible. FF is contradicting himself left and right making no real sense. I'm sure if I had a few extra minutes on my hand I would expose him for the fraud he is.

Or lynch me I don't care. School > mafia game.

@j0 what questions?

@trashleg & nen

that's everything, I have nothing else to add.

 

How pitiful.

*tsk tsk*



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Sugu yoko de waratteita

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nen-suer on 05 October 2009
Final-Fan said:
nen-suer said:
Final-Fan said:
nen-suer said:

 

Oh, so thats what defending means

carry on then

If someone started beating up your friend, and you beat up that person, would you say you defended your friend?  

[edit:  so I would definitely say you defended him, but my "him defending you" argument was quite weak, so that's why my "you defending each other" argument is not well supported.]   

am sorry, but i dont understand what your trying to say



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c03n3nj0 on 05 October 2009
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:

Okay, I have a REAL suspect today. Yesterday I was throwing shit at the wall to see if anything stuck, but today it's an accusation I'm really going to pursue until I get a satisfactory answer. (Or someone else comes up with an even more pressing concern.)

FoS hatmoza
No wait, considering the number of people in here I'll go ahead and
Vote hatmoza
But consider it an FoS.

THE FACTS
On Page 8 (@ 50 posts per page),
1--hatmoza said I was "all over the board with accusations" I was making when I had "nothing to work on"
---When I responded that I had only accused 2 people (at different times) and clearly given my reasons for both, and asked for HIS reasons for saying I was "all over" the place etc., he did not respond.
2--nen-suer blew a gasket due to me talking about Game 5A and threatened to lynch me even if I was truly innocent
---hatmoza defended him
3--hatmoza said that he, nordlead, and WoW were the top suspects [edit: should be "targets"] [edit: and yet not me for some reason]
---nordlead responded by questioning why he and hatmoza would be at risk
---hatmoza's response included the suggestion that if nordlead didn't feel he was at risk it was because he was M/WW

THE THEORY
--His lack of response to my defense is suspicious to me -- as if he just threw out something to try to raise suspicion on me and when it didn't work (I had a strong defense) he completely stopped caring.

--Defending nen-suer could have been a way to try to keep the fire under my feet from going out.

--If hatmoza is mafia, he may have killed norldead because he suspected him of being werewolf.

Guys, I really am trying to get my paper work done here. Stop being so gullible. FF is contradicting himself left and right making no real sense. I'm sure if I had a few extra minutes on my hand I would expose him for the fraud he is.

Or lynch me I don't care. School > mafia game.

@j0 what questions?

@trashleg & nen

that's everything, I have nothing else to add.

 

Er, I meant to say accusations.



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nen-suer on 05 October 2009
dtewi said:
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:

 

Guys, I really am trying to get my paper work done here. Stop being so gullible. FF is contradicting himself left and right making no real sense. I'm sure if I had a few extra minutes on my hand I would expose him for the fraud he is.

Or lynch me I don't care. School > mafia game.

@j0 what questions?

@trashleg & nen

that's everything, I have nothing else to add.

 

How pitiful.

*tsk tsk*



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trashleg on 05 October 2009

vote:Final-Fan

too much talky-talky.



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c03n3nj0 on 05 October 2009

Well, I got myself a few suspects, now.

But first, I have to go do some homework. I'll be back in a while, gonna see how everything is around then.

Don't do anything rash, people!



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Final-Fan on 05 October 2009
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:

Okay, I have a REAL suspect today. Yesterday I was throwing shit at the wall to see if anything stuck, but today it's an accusation I'm really going to pursue until I get a satisfactory answer. (Or someone else comes up with an even more pressing concern.)

FoS hatmoza
No wait, considering the number of people in here I'll go ahead and
Vote hatmoza
But consider it an FoS.

THE FACTS
On Page 8 (@ 50 posts per page),
1--hatmoza said I was "all over the board with accusations" I was making when I had "nothing to work on"
---When I responded that I had only accused 2 people (at different times) and clearly given my reasons for both, and asked for HIS reasons for saying I was "all over" the place etc., he did not respond.
2--nen-suer blew a gasket due to me talking about Game 5A and threatened to lynch me even if I was truly innocent
---hatmoza defended him
3--hatmoza said that he, nordlead, and WoW were the top suspects [edit: should be "targets"] [edit: and yet not me for some reason]
---nordlead responded by questioning why he and hatmoza would be at risk
---hatmoza's response included the suggestion that if nordlead didn't feel he was at risk it was because he was M/WW

THE THEORY
--His lack of response to my defense is suspicious to me -- as if he just threw out something to try to raise suspicion on me and when it didn't work (I had a strong defense) he completely stopped caring.

--Defending nen-suer could have been a way to try to keep the fire under my feet from going out.

--If hatmoza is mafia, he may have killed norldead because he suspected him of being werewolf.

Guys, I really am trying to get my paper work done here. Stop being so gullible. FF is contradicting himself left and right making no real sense. I'm sure if I had a few extra minutes on my hand I would expose him for the fraud he is.

Or lynch me I don't care. School > mafia game.

@j0 what questions?

@trashleg & nen

that's everything, I have nothing else to add.

If you read that to mean "making accusations frivolously", that's not what I meant to say, nor what I was doing.  

I had real reasons for the accusations I made, but I didn't think it was strong enough to strongly justify lynching -- but strong enough to call for the person to defend him/herself and create more discussion.  

Although, I would have gone through with the OkeyDokey lynching because of my annoyance that he apparently didn't read what I'd said (or IMO he would have at least addressed the fact that he was risking me jumping on his nuts).  IMO that is a person we could afford to lose and it was also possible he was a bad guy.  With SFB, I wouldn't have gone through with it unless his defense really sucked.  

So, although my accusations yesterday were not truly justified in the sense that they could support the idea that that person was definitely mafia, they did have reasons, which I explained when making them, whereas you claimed I had no reason for making my accusations.   

When I said, "So my question to you is what makes this "all over" the place with "nothing to work on" when I've mentioned 3 people and clearly stated my reasoning for everything I've said", you did not respond.  

AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T.  

Evading the question is a classic mafia tactic.  IMO you are more suspicious than ever and it would almost take a confession from someone else to switch my vote today.  

(Note:  the "third" person is WoW, whom I requested an investigation on.) 



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sabby_e17 on 05 October 2009
trashleg said:
vote:Final-Fan

too much talky-talky.


Do you think Final-Fan could be using us? Is he trying to make us lynch an innocent?

Has Hatmoza provided any sort of good defence?

Both are doing what they have to but I'm having a hard time believing anyone. I don't want to fall for anyone like last time.




Final-Fan on 05 October 2009
trashleg said:
vote:Final-Fan

too much talky-talky.

I realize I'm taking over the thread a bit, but I can't stop myself! But is that really a reason to vote for me? I mean, mafia normally don't want to be center stage, do they?

Or are you just using that as a threat to get me to shut up?   



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dtewi on 05 October 2009

Final-Fan, you seem a bit insane today.

Not in a bad way though.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you