First of all, i don't even know what is that supposed to mean. Who the hell is hiding? Second of all, reading your post made my eyes hurt. Ever thought that the price might be a factor? Just look, the PS2 is still selling a lot, if the PS3 costed $250 like the Wii, i think the story would be really different, but we don't know, and since we don't know, everything you posted is stupid, cause you are talking as if price wasn't an important factor. Even though i already stated why your post is wrong, i'd still like to reply. Since you wanna talk about people's opinion then why not? * Most of the people seem to agree that Resistance is a better game than Wii's FPS, Red Steel and it IS selling more than Red Steel so stop pulling numbers out of your ass. Also, considering that there are less PS3s than Wiis and Resistance is still selling more, we got an extra point for Resistance. * Most of the people also agree that MotorStorm is better than Excite Truck. We got no sales yet to prove it but i'm pretty sure it will beat Excite Truck since almost everyone i know is getting it. You also said, the PS3 doesn't have gameplay and the Wii does, that is clearly one of the most retarded things i've ever read. The PS3 plays games just like we have always played them, you are basically saying that games from the past had no gameplay, nice one, retard. I've never done that. Yeah, and my point still stands, a good game isn't the same as a game that sells a lot. According to your logic, the pokemon games are the best games ever. (I know mario has sold more copies but considering mario has been out there for 20 years and Pokemon a lot less, Pokemon is more succesful) This one proved me that you are a moron and should stop writing. THE BEST SELLING GAMES ARE NOT SEQUELS. Resistance: Fall of Man? New game MotorStorm? New game What a fucking coincidence, the two best selling games are totally new. You don't even know anything about this and you are trying to argue with me. The thing is that you are basically saying that PS3 games aren't fun to play, and this is exactly where you fail. Will you shut up now? Everyone with a brain would agree with me.

I'll accept that. Its based on whether or not the developer wants to aim for photo-realism (i.e. Gran Turismo HD) or if the developer wants to bring out a certain style (i.e. Initial D).

You quoted me, you were replying to me not another post. don't lie. I have no idea where did that come from but i don't give a shit cause it was off topic. The only problem with your post is that Wii's graphics aren't from 2007 :) Here's a suggestion, buy a PS3, 360 or a good PC and compare. The difference is CLEAR even on a standard TV.

I still consider Do Re Mi Fantasy on the SNES to be gorgeous, despite running at a mere 240p and on vastly outdated hardware. A game doesn't have to be on the latest and greatest to be beautiful, and this seems to be what you're ignoring.

.... He didn't mean beautiful as in "awww that's so cute" he meant beatiful as in "it has great graphics". And i'm wrong, then it just means he went off topic, so i doubt it. And i'm not ignoring anything, i've already mentioned Okami and God of War 2 here.

Here we go... :) 1/ Try reading my first post in this thread. I quoted SuperChunk's message, and said that I agree with him. Its the post right above mine. Just because your name was in the quote doesn't have anything to do with anything. So try getting your facts right before you start insulting people. 2/ No you wouldn't have any idea - look at the title of the thread. Are NES graphics outdated? Yes. Do I give a shit? No. 3/ Whatever... 2007, 2006. I read back and found your first post - and as usual, you have no idea. Not even worth commenting on. 4/ Did I say that Zelda's graphics were better or worse than anything else? No... I don't believe so. Go ahead and argue that Zelda doesn't have beautiful graphics - I'll buy you a "fanboy" branded shovel, so you can dig yourself a deeper hole. ... The REAL title of this thread should be "PS3 graphics outdated by 2011!!". The Wii isn't in the graphics arms race, but the PS3 is. Once the graphics on the PS3 become obsolete - so does the console. Not true with the Wii.

You really think you can fool me? Yes, you weren't quoting me, my bad... But you just said you agreed with SuperChunk, so when you said "you guys are missing the point" it's obvious that you are not talking to SuperChunk, cause you agree with him. Me 1 - You 0 Yes, i've seen the thread title, but first, the title is misleading. And second, i'm talking about or little discussion that started on the second page, not the main thread. You can't just bring the other topic when i wasn't even talking about it, and this time you DID quote me so there's nothing you can say. Actually, not even 2006 xD I have no idea about what? Not even worth commenting on what? That doesn't even make sense. I didn't say that either, you said you liked zelda (and that's another comment that came out of nowhere) and if you like those graphics so much, then you could enjoy the other consoles. Wrong, 2011 will be approx 4 years after launch cause it launched in november, almost 2007. Did anyone complain about the PS2 in 2004? 4 years after launch? The PS3 has about 6 or 7 years, the Wii, until the people get bored of the controller, and the worst part, is that it is ALREADY happening. Seriously, what now? it isn't new anymore and i've already seen a lot of people selling them, even a friend of mine who owns one, beat Zelda and has nothing to do with it. The rest of the games are basically the same games released for the gamecube, but with a new controller, again... it isn't new anymore so the WOW factor isn't there anymore. This has taken too much time and i'm going to sleep now.

I remember many people saying consoles, not just the PS2, looked like crap compared to the PC titles that year. But why the hell do you have a problem with peoples "comments that come out of nowhere"? As far as I can tell you've done plenty of this. You're psychic? I fail to see how a consoles power can prevent it from having beautiful games, and thats beautiful as in "great graphics"

It just depends on what games you like, in the end. My only immediate plans are to get a DS Lite as soon as I can, otherwise I may be a wii-only user this generation (coming from owning 40+ PS2 games and 25+ gamecube games). The 360 and PS3 are trying to replace my computer, and that is something I neither need, want, or can afford. What I want to do is play good, enjoyable games, and from my taste, the wii is offering more this year alone than the 360 and ps3 combined. I have a very small budget, why would I want to save up almost or more than a half a grand for a console that isn't offering me very much? It's funny, technically I'm a hardcore gamer, but it doesn't seem like it when I argue about it. 0.o

After reading through all the hate, agony and distrust in this thread, I think it is time to make a small statement. 1, Wii Graphics outdated by 2011, true or false? True if you compare what out consols can do in the realistic shows, but it is already outdated now compared to Xbox360 and PS3. 2, Does the lack of high power Wii Graphics mean anything to the average consumer buying Wii today. No, simple look at press and the sales in Japan. The big seller is Wii Sport, for many people Wii Sport is the Game that you must play on Wii, not Zelda. 3, Combining 1 and 2 what will the outdated Graphics mean in 2011. According to my belif, nothing at all. Wii might be slowing down in sales but will probarbly do decent with a much lower price tag then the other consols, and that it can offer something different compared to the other manufactors. 4, Is it still possible to make nice looking games on the Wii with this "lack" of power? Yes, two good evidence is RE4 (GC) and GoW (PS2). Those games is looking really good on hardware that lacks power compared to Wii. Even if it is only with a factor of 2. Just my opinions.