| ManusJustus said: It makes sense to me that there are athiests politicians who claim Christianity for political gain, knowing that being an open athiest could be political suicide. |
What? That would mean they are lying for there own personal gain.
Come on man, do you really think a politician would do that?
Communist hater is prejudiced? damn. I did not see that coming
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| stof said: Communist hater is prejudiced? damn. I did not see that coming |
What did he say in this thread that was prejudiced?
He just said that it's the first he had in common with him.
Christian Presidents forever!!!
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| ManusJustus said: I doubt that all Christian politicians are actually Christian. In America, 10% of the population is athiest/agnostic, and the more educated you are the more likely you are to be in that group. We have several hundred top politicians in Washington, and I only know of one open athiest (Pete Stark). |
Actually it's more like 4-8%.
Also... uh. If you'll notice the race and gender numbers don't match up either when it comes to government.
Reason being... the majority is always going to be over represented in a democracy because it's majority rules, and have a nautral positive affinity to someone more like them.
So if Joe, Bob and Mike have the same views, Joe is a Protestant, Bob is a Catholic and Mike is an Atheist....
Joe is going to win... and there are a lot of Joes who want to be in government.
I believe in JC yet I don't follow what Christian do or think....
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Kasz216 said:
Actually it's more like 4-8%. Also... uh. If you'll notice the race and gender numbers don't match up either when it comes to government. Reason being... the majority is always going to be over represented in a democracy because it's majority rules, and have a nautral positive affinity to someone more like them. So if Joe, Bob and Mike have the same views, Joe is a Protestant, Bob is a Catholic and Mike is an Atheist.... Joe is going to win... and there are a lot of Joes who want to be in government. |
Oh I'm sorry, I'm 2% off from whatever poll you recall.
So you believe that a politician wouldn't lie to you? Especially in regards to something damning to their political career? Perhaps Larry Craig thought he was in the girl's barthroom, Ted Haggard didnt have any happy endings with his male massages, and Mark Foley had the wrong number (numerous times).
Obviously, the majority tends to gets their way, but if that were always true we wouldn't have a black president and only 10% of women in Congress (read: there are more white people and more women than men). Even so, it wouldnt matter if someone is Protestant or is lying about being a Protestant, as long as people think he was Protestant they wont vote differently. Most people aren't child molestors, but Mark Foley was able to stay in office by not telling people about this.
With educatd people being more likely to be athiest/agnostic, politicians being more educated than the general population, and the fact that politicians have no issues lying to people, I'll continue to think that there is more than one athiest in Washington.
I'm happy that politicians in Britain don't have to fake a religious view to sway voters like Obama and half of the modern presidents have.
A little off topic but it helps my point, this is what Abraham Lincoln once said about god and American politics:
"The will of God prevails. In great contests each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be, wrong. God cannot be for and against the same thing at the same time."
| highwaystar101 said: I'm happy that politicians in Britain don't have to fake a religious view to sway voters like Obama. |
Do you have any sources to back that up? I've always wondered if Obama was irreligious, especially with his mother being an athiest, but I've never come across anything to back that up.
ManusJustus said:
Oh I'm sorry, I'm 2% off from whatever poll you recall. So you believe that a politician wouldn't lie to you? Especially in regards to something damning to their political career? Perhaps Larry Craig thought he was in the girl's barthroom, Ted Haggard didnt have any happy endings with his male massages, and Mark Foley had the wrong number (numerous times). Obviously, the majority tends to gets their way, but if that were always true we wouldn't have a black president and only 10% of women in Congress (read: there are more white people and more women than men). Even so, it wouldnt matter if someone is Protestant or is lying about being a Protestant, as long as people think he was Protestant they wont vote differently. Most people aren't child molestors, but Mark Foley was able to stay in office by not telling people about this. With educatd people being more likely to be athiest/agnostic, politicians being more educated than the general population, and the fact that politicians have no issues lying to people, I'll continue to think that there is more than one athiest in Washington. |
Actually it's 4%.
The 8% is being generous from a poll that had a different method of asking questions.
Do I believe politicans wouldn't lie to me? Of course not.
Do I believe they'd lie about being atheists? Not really, because they wouldn't be believable at it unless they spent at least as much time at it as a religious person. Its ridiuclious how those evangelicals can "sniff" you out with all the random religious questions they ask... and you always end up at their stuff... even if your a democrat.
I mean hell... look at that debate he and McCain ahd with that "family values" guy that swore Obama in. He had some hard hitting religious based questions.
I mean have you heard Obama's speeches? If he's lieing about beign a Christian... he's had to put more work towards "faking" christian then most christians put towards actually being christian. Guy uses mroe biblical refrences then an Alabamian preacher.
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