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Zucas said:
Well back on topic, of course it will be moderately difficult to talk about cricket as I don't have a vast knowledge of the sport. However, I can give some more details about baseball. Highest career average of any baseball player is Ty Cobb with a .367 batting average. Meaning the best hitting baseball player by average didn't even hit the ball 4/10 times when he went up to bat. Even considering back when Ty Cobb played where pitching wasn't necessarily as "good" as it is today. And I don't mean that in a slandering term but simply because they didn't have many variances of pitches as they do today. Simply meaning professional baseball players still only hit the fastball 3 out of every 10 times for a solid base hit. Whether you acredit that to the pitching or the defense is really a tough one.

But that doesn't take anything off the hitting. Average ERA for starting pitching in a season for baseball is generally in the 3.00 to 5.00 range. Meaning the hitting is still getting the job done. Not to mention usually your best hitters will have a .300 average, 30 home runs, and 100 RBI's in a solid season. But it is still obvious the game is in the pitcher's control because hitting is just so difficult in the MLB.

Pitchers still have a lot of work to get where they are. Nowadays the fastball is not enough to get most hitters out. Well if you can't use it interchangeably. Being able to have a good offspeed pitch as a "weapon" is a tactical way to approach a batter. Such as starting off a batter with a changeup on the outside corner and then slamming inside with a fastball up and in is a great way to throw a batter off balance. So for pitchers it isn't only about going up there and hurling all your best pitches for strikes but also ensuring that you have a strategy on how to get each batter out. Generally those decisions come from the catchers though as they call the pitches. They generally know all their pitchers and the batters they are facing and formulate an "attack" to best get them out.

Batters also have a "plan" at the plate but it's not as extensive as the pitcher/catcher. Simply because of the lack of time to react. Have about 4/10 of a second to react to a 90 MPH fastball at the distance.

So for batting and pitching it is quite obvious that aside from the strength and training aspect, there is are numerous amounts of balance, technique, and even strategy that are involved in even one at bat in a game. Although I mention technique, haven't really gone over proper technique for pitching and hitting. It's actually quite extensive. There are numerous ways to hit and pitch, but there is generally only one way to do it well haha. And then doing it numerous times repeatedly in a game over and over again with changing scenarios is where the practice before the season matters.

Hey tell me something, how come all the pitchers get the bad rap when they place it exactly where the catcher says, but still gets hit? I mean I see some of these poor guys pitching exactly what they're told, then they go to the bullpen because of a hit, that the catcher called for. Is it because the coach sees that the hitters see the delivery as too predictable (wind up etc) or is it a lack of justice? I mean how the game is now you wouldn't exactly switch out the catcher for better pitching decisions because it's not convenient with the roster.



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blunty51 said:
Craan said:
blunty's just displaying typical european elitism

hey!! I love baseball too, I just like cricket better

I would subconsciously make you say that.



I'm guessing you've never played baseball if you say the ball "just happens to and where no fielders are".

Batters actually train to place balls into "the gaps".



blunty51 said:
Zucas said:
Well back on topic, of course it will be moderately difficult to talk about cricket as I don't have a vast knowledge of the sport. However, I can give some more details about baseball. Highest career average of any baseball player is Ty Cobb with a .367 batting average. Meaning the best hitting baseball player by average didn't even hit the ball 4/10 times when he went up to bat. Even considering back when Ty Cobb played where pitching wasn't necessarily as "good" as it is today. And I don't mean that in a slandering term but simply because they didn't have many variances of pitches as they do today. Simply meaning professional baseball players still only hit the fastball 3 out of every 10 times for a solid base hit. Whether you acredit that to the pitching or the defense is really a tough one.

But that doesn't take anything off the hitting. Average ERA for starting pitching in a season for baseball is generally in the 3.00 to 5.00 range. Meaning the hitting is still getting the job done. Not to mention usually your best hitters will have a .300 average, 30 home runs, and 100 RBI's in a solid season. But it is still obvious the game is in the pitcher's control because hitting is just so difficult in the MLB.

Pitchers still have a lot of work to get where they are. Nowadays the fastball is not enough to get most hitters out. Well if you can't use it interchangeably. Being able to have a good offspeed pitch as a "weapon" is a tactical way to approach a batter. Such as starting off a batter with a changeup on the outside corner and then slamming inside with a fastball up and in is a great way to throw a batter off balance. So for pitchers it isn't only about going up there and hurling all your best pitches for strikes but also ensuring that you have a strategy on how to get each batter out. Generally those decisions come from the catchers though as they call the pitches. They generally know all their pitchers and the batters they are facing and formulate an "attack" to best get them out.

Batters also have a "plan" at the plate but it's not as extensive as the pitcher/catcher. Simply because of the lack of time to react. Have about 4/10 of a second to react to a 90 MPH fastball at the distance.

So for batting and pitching it is quite obvious that aside from the strength and training aspect, there is are numerous amounts of balance, technique, and even strategy that are involved in even one at bat in a game. Although I mention technique, haven't really gone over proper technique for pitching and hitting. It's actually quite extensive. There are numerous ways to hit and pitch, but there is generally only one way to do it well haha. And then doing it numerous times repeatedly in a game over and over again with changing scenarios is where the practice before the season matters.

Hey tell me something, how come all the pitchers get the bad rap when they place it exactly where the catcher says, but still gets hit? I mean I see some of these poor guys pitching exactly what they're told, then they go to the bullpen because of a hit, that the catcher called for. Is it because the coach sees that the hitters see the delivery as too predictable (wind up etc) or is it a lack of justice? I mean how the game is now you wouldn't exactly switch out the catcher for better pitching decisions because it's not convenient with the roster.

Because it's the job of the pitcher to control how the ball reaches the point. There are several different types of pitches that will completely change how you have to hit the ball, even though it's going to end up in the same spot.



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blunty51 said:
LOL, they call it 'Tea' but it's really a 'break'
And to be fair, Cricket is formly played internationally in Australia, England, West Indies, Sir Lanka, China, Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, South Africa, UAE, Namibia, Ireland, U.S.A, New Zealand, Canada, Kenya, Bangladesh, Scotland & Netherlands.

Compare that to baseball.

Going by the countries who participated in the World Baseball Cup this past summer: Netherlands, Australia, Canada, China, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Nicaragua, Puerto-Rico, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, USA and Venezuala. This leaves out many countries that play baseball, but did not participate in the World Baseball Cup this past year.

I had fun playing both sports, but baseball is much better in my opinion.



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outlawauron said:
blunty51 said:

Hey tell me something, how come all the pitchers get the bad rap when they place it exactly where the catcher says, but still gets hit? I mean I see some of these poor guys pitching exactly what they're told, then they go to the bullpen because of a hit, that the catcher called for. Is it because the coach sees that the hitters see the delivery as too predictable (wind up etc) or is it a lack of justice? I mean how the game is now you wouldn't exactly switch out the catcher for better pitching decisions because it's not convenient with the roster.

Because it's the job of the pitcher to control how the ball reaches the point. There are several different types of pitches that will completely change how you have to hit the ball, even though it's going to end up in the same spot.

Yea I know but I was asking why they get the bad rap even if they pitch what the catcher wants, where he wants.



izaaz101 said:
blunty51 said:
LOL, they call it 'Tea' but it's really a 'break'
And to be fair, Cricket is formly played internationally in Australia, England, West Indies, Sir Lanka, China, Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, South Africa, UAE, Namibia, Ireland, U.S.A, New Zealand, Canada, Kenya, Bangladesh, Scotland & Netherlands.

Compare that to baseball.

Going by the countries who participated in the World Baseball Cup this past summer: Netherlands, Australia, Canada, China, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Nicaragua, Puerto-Rico, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, USA and Venezuala. This leaves out many countries that play baseball, but did not participate in the World Baseball Cup this past year.

I had fun playing both sports, but baseball is much better in my opinion.

Whoa that's a lot. But do they play at international level on a regular basis? Out of the ones I named, at least 11 does



India alone probably makes cricket more popular lol. They're crazy about their cricket, Aussie cricket stars release singles and star in movies over there!



lol that's quite true



Yeah population-wise India pretty much guarantees that cricket has a far larger number of fans. Not only is the population huge but a huge amount of the population love cricket, it's worse than us Kiwi's with our rugby, I swear.