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Forums - Sales Discussion - Wii 10 mln. or PS3 5 mln. in Japan. Who first?

saicho said:
jarrod said:
peachbuggy said:
How is the PS3 Q1 stronger than Wii's?

Posted a list.  Basically it has more games and heavier hitters, though Q1 isn't final and should fill out more.  Unless Wii has a surprise big game announcement for March though (like Mario Galaxy 2?), I think PS3 will take it.

that would be too much Mario in a short span if it happens.

Maybe.  It's so different from NSMB though that they might actually help compliment each other and drive sales of each further.  More direct sequels have done this before (Ie: Taiko no Tatsujin, Brain Training, etc).  If Galaxy 2 did release, it'd easily be the biggest Q1 console game though.

 

Personally though, I'm hoping for a surprise DQ Swords II w/Motion+ in March. :D



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jarrod said:
peachbuggy said:
Don't see how the PS3 line-up is any better - for the Japan market anyway. Also EA Grand slam tennis would be for the Wii and not for PS3. Noticed that quite a few of the PS3 games were TBC too. So i can see at least a few of them slipping until later on in the year.

No, it's the "gem" version, GST Wii already came out in Japan last summer.  Natal version likely won't ship until fall then.

And yeah, I expect some of the tba games to slip. 

 

If we reduce the lists down to just announced games with a confirmed date and are likely to sell 100k+...

Wii

  • 01.14.10 Biohazard: The DarkSide Chronicles (Capcom) 100k+

PlayStation 3

  • 01.28.10 End of Eternity (Sega) 100k+
  • 02.04.10 Star Ocean: The Last Hope International (Square Enix) 200k+
  • 02.18.10 Biohazard 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) 100k+
  • 03.18.10 Ryu ga Gotoku 4: Densetsu o Tsugumono (Sega) 400k+

Xbox 360 

  • lol

Blashphemy End of eternity will sell 250k. Lol!



jarrod said:
peachbuggy said:
Don't see how the PS3 line-up is any better - for the Japan market anyway. Also EA Grand slam tennis would be for the Wii and not for PS3. Noticed that quite a few of the PS3 games were TBC too. So i can see at least a few of them slipping until later on in the year.

No, it's the "gem" version, GST Wii already came out in Japan last summer.  Natal version likely won't ship until fall then.

And yeah, I expect some of the tba games to slip. 

 

If we reduce the lists down to just announced games with a confirmed date and are likely to sell 100k+...

Wii

  • 01.14.10 Biohazard: The DarkSide Chronicles (Capcom) 100k+

PlayStation 3

  • 01.28.10 End of Eternity (Sega) 100k+
  • 02.04.10 Star Ocean: The Last Hope International (Square Enix) 200k+
  • 02.18.10 Biohazard 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) 100k+
  • 02.18.10 Dante's Inferno: Shinkyoku Jigoku-Hen (EA) 100+
  • 03.18.10 Ryu ga Gotoku 4: Densetsu o Tsugumono (Sega) 400k+
  • 03.25.10 Quantum Theory (Koei Tecmo) 100+

Xbox 360 

  • lol

i think these two should also hit 100+ first week.. hopefully PS3 audience will be big n varied enough to like these titles.



Edouble24 said:
Well I never said FFXIII would have the biggest opening. I said Famitsu, Media Create and the higher ups here were underestimating it by saying it would only do 1.5 million lifetime. He told me that I know nothing about sales and they do so I'd have to be wrong, and I'm not. Can't do much to spin that one, unless he thinks the game will sell 0 copies from this point on.

 

 

We are in the same situation. I really regret he was banned (2 times) in the last 2 weeks. This guys predictions  are ALWAYS wrong (except NSMBWII) but literally everything he said about the PS3 was wrong. His predictions in his sig are insane. 

 

Since i know him it happened the exact opposite of his PS3 predictions. But this wont stop him to make new predictions. The predictions of ZorroX atleast the last I read where ALWAYS right. His prediction of 3.5 Mln min and 5.5 Mln Max difference between PS3 and 360 after holidays his (and mine) Ps3 Hardware number prediciton for this week. And maybe even the race prediction. Because the race will be decided in January or February. And Wii is stronger during holidays. If the PS3 made maybe 50k plus this week it will be hard for Wii to win the race.

 

I still believe that Ps3 has a chance of winning the holidays and the race. FF13 provided the  boost I expected. And maybe PS3 will be on a Wiilevel the next week. Then there is no time  for the Wii to catch up. 

 

He maybe is a troll but he made some good predictions the last months. #

And because of LineUp strength. I have somehow the feeling that Heavy rain could be big in Japan. (Not too big but really respectable)

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Noobie said:
jarrod said:
peachbuggy said:
Don't see how the PS3 line-up is any better - for the Japan market anyway. Also EA Grand slam tennis would be for the Wii and not for PS3. Noticed that quite a few of the PS3 games were TBC too. So i can see at least a few of them slipping until later on in the year.

No, it's the "gem" version, GST Wii already came out in Japan last summer.  Natal version likely won't ship until fall then.

And yeah, I expect some of the tba games to slip. 

 

If we reduce the lists down to just announced games with a confirmed date and are likely to sell 100k+...

Wii

  • 01.14.10 Biohazard: The DarkSide Chronicles (Capcom) 100k+

PlayStation 3

  • 01.28.10 End of Eternity (Sega) 100k+
  • 02.04.10 Star Ocean: The Last Hope International (Square Enix) 200k+
  • 02.18.10 Biohazard 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) 100k+
  • 02.18.10 Dante's Inferno: Shinkyoku Jigoku-Hen (EA) 100+
  • 03.18.10 Ryu ga Gotoku 4: Densetsu o Tsugumono (Sega) 400k+
  • 03.25.10 Quantum Theory (Koei Tecmo) 100+

Xbox 360 

  • lol

i think these two should also hit 100+ first week.. hopefully PS3 audience will be big n varied enough to like these titles.

I doubt either comes close, even lifetime.  Bayonetta and MW2 each just passed 100k 1st week, and they're both dramatically more appealing for the Japanese market.

Also, no EA game has ever come in over 100k 1st week iirc, on any platform.



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ViolentPhlegm said:
@Wii_Master: plus 245k for this week.

what do you mean by pluss 245K...I mean for whcih console.



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Another PS360 game to add to the list! Front Mission Evolved went from "spring 2010" to 02/25/10 thanks to a leak on Xbox.com. I think the PS3 rev may crack 100k, but it's iffy (Gaijin made, realtime shooter, etc).



If you base yourself on historical data Wii should do around 210k this week.
However this is going to depend on whether the PS3 push this week is going to happen at the expense of the Wii or not.
What I mean by this is last year for the same week 200k console were sold, this week it could be as high as 450k...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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jarrod said:
Noobie said:
jarrod said:
peachbuggy said:
Don't see how the PS3 line-up is any better - for the Japan market anyway. Also EA Grand slam tennis would be for the Wii and not for PS3. Noticed that quite a few of the PS3 games were TBC too. So i can see at least a few of them slipping until later on in the year.

No, it's the "gem" version, GST Wii already came out in Japan last summer.  Natal version likely won't ship until fall then.

And yeah, I expect some of the tba games to slip. 

 

If we reduce the lists down to just announced games with a confirmed date and are likely to sell 100k+...

Wii

  • 01.14.10 Biohazard: The DarkSide Chronicles (Capcom) 100k+

PlayStation 3

  • 01.28.10 End of Eternity (Sega) 100k+
  • 02.04.10 Star Ocean: The Last Hope International (Square Enix) 200k+
  • 02.18.10 Biohazard 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) 100k+
  • 02.18.10 Dante's Inferno: Shinkyoku Jigoku-Hen (EA) 100+
  • 03.18.10 Ryu ga Gotoku 4: Densetsu o Tsugumono (Sega) 400k+
  • 03.25.10 Quantum Theory (Koei Tecmo) 100+

Xbox 360 

  • lol

i think these two should also hit 100+ first week.. hopefully PS3 audience will be big n varied enough to like these titles.

I doubt either comes close, even lifetime.  Bayonetta and MW2 each just passed 100k 1st week, and they're both dramatically more appealing for the Japanese market.

Also, no EA game has ever come in over 100k 1st week iirc, on any platform.

You may be very right.. But i thought Dante's Inferno is a copy of God Of War n DMC both of which do reasonably well in Japan. and with the lower price of PS3 n definitely 30% increase in PS3 base in Japan from DMC launch n with good marketing i think it can do well.

for Quantum Theory it can be a sleeper hit like Demon Soul, so 100k first week is a little too much for it, but with 40 - 50k opening n some good legs (granted the game is good) it may do 100k in a month time..

But i will definitely be keeping an eye on these two games as a new IP..