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Forums - Sales Discussion - Wii 10 mln. or PS3 5 mln. in Japan. Who first?

The good thing about message boards is that it's all documented. and it's all in the first post. Of course some people will admit the obvious if Wii or PS3 show a clear sign of victory, but we can't say we made the right prediction a few weeks ago. A lot of us said PS3 even after the huge explanations on why the Wii price drop will change the entire Japanese market around in favor of the Wii, so we wont pretend we didn't say it.



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well i said the PS3 at the beginning of this thread and i say the PS3 now.

I bet some people will be stealth editing. Time to start quoting everyone who said the PS3 will just drop and drop and erm drop lmao



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ChrisIsNotSexy said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Noobie said:
Slowly more and more people are siding with PS3. :)

That'll change in a few weeks, with everyone jumping on the Wii bandwagon, and saying how they never doubted ioi for a moment

Indeed that will change in a few weeks,with FF XIII and holidays.

I see the Ps3 going 4 million+ after holidays.

FF13 won't sell anywhere as much as you're thinking, its going to sell much less than FFX



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

ChrisIsNotSexy said:

I see the Ps3 going 4 million+ after holidays.

Even lifetime, that seems a bit tough.  I mean, it's only selling about as well as a "failed" Wii in it's absolute best year, I'm not sure you can really expect the machine to double it's userbase after 3 years on market.  Saturn didn't, N64 didn't, GameCube didn't, and those are the platforms whose JP sales align most closely with PS3 (GC slightly under, N64/SS a bit ahead).

FFXIII is PS3's biggest game, I'm not sure there's anything possible on the horizon that to keep it from being downhill afterwards.  Maybe FFXV?  It's not getting DQ or MH...



And weren't we right to doubt ioi? I respect him as an analyst but just about every prediction of his so far has been wrong. PS3 dropping below 20k in a few weeks. No big games aside Final Fantasy XIII compared to Wii's lineup, Wii beating PS3 every week after the price drop. All of those are inaccurate predictions. He may win this bet but he certainly wasn't right about everything, I doubt anyone in this thread is. I'm gonna go ahead and say once again that the two of you are wrong about FFXIII as well.



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Edouble24 said:
And weren't we right to doubt ioi? I respect him as an analyst but just about every prediction of his so far has been wrong. PS3 dropping below 20k in a few weeks. No big games aside Final Fantasy XIII compared to Wii's lineup, Wii beating PS3 every week after the price drop. All of those are inaccurate predictions. He may win this bet but he certainly wasn't right about everything, I doubt anyone in this thread is. I'm gonna go ahead and say once again that the two of you are wrong about FFXIII as well.

Are you also saying MC and Famitsu are wrong, because they are the ones who said it wouldn't sell 2 million in Japan lifetime



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

I think FFXIII will hit 2m lifetime in Japan. Frankly it'd be a huge upset if it didn't, and I also think Famitsu's underestimating it.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
ChrisIsNotSexy said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Noobie said:
Slowly more and more people are siding with PS3. :)

That'll change in a few weeks, with everyone jumping on the Wii bandwagon, and saying how they never doubted ioi for a moment

Indeed that will change in a few weeks,with FF XIII and holidays.

I see the Ps3 going 4 million+ after holidays.

FF13 won't sell anywhere as much as you're thinking, its going to sell much less than FFX

NSMBWii won't sell anywhere near as much as you expect. See, I can do that too. I know you want FFXIII (and, conversely, the PS3) to fail hard but I don't think it will. 



jarrod said:
ChrisIsNotSexy said:

I see the Ps3 going 4 million+ after holidays.

Even lifetime, that seems a bit tough.  I mean, it's only selling about as well as a "failed" Wii in it's absolute best year, I'm not sure you can really expect the machine to double it's userbase after 3 years on market.  Saturn didn't, N64 didn't, GameCube didn't, and those are the platforms whose JP sales align most closely with PS3 (GC slightly under, N64/SS a bit ahead).

FFXIII is PS3's biggest game, I'm not sure there's anything possible on the horizon that to keep it from being downhill afterwards.  Maybe FFXV?  It's not getting DQ or MH...

Actually, PS3 will be 4M+ already by the end of November and probably 4.5M+ by the end of this year.

Saturn, N64, GC didn`t have such great 3rd party support as PS3 has. For 2010 alone:

FFXIV, SO4 International, Front Mission Evolved, Yakuza 4, Ar Tonelico 3, Trinity: Zill'Ol, Nier, Lost Planet 2, Dead Rising 2, Super Street Fighter 4, Metal Gear Solid Rising, Sengoku Basara 3, Castlevania: Lords of Shadows, Dinasty Warriors: Troy, First of the North Star, End of Eternity, FFXIIIv, White Album, Last Rebellion, Quantum Theory, RE5: Alternate Edition.

And that are only announced games. Not to mention 1st and 2nd party PS3 games. GT5 also will keep PS3 momentum.



Soriku said:

Just noticed...both NSMB Wii and Samurai Warriors 3 (bundled) come out out on Dec 3rd (though I'm not expect SW3 to do a ton). Following that, ToG releases on the 10th, also bundled. Will be two really big weeks. Edit: And Pokepark on Dec 3 too.

if you check the recent Famitsu predictions for sales, Samurai Warrior 3 didn't even make their list.

Same with the prediction of the major Japanese retailer that were posted today.

So I woudn't expect much from that title..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !