Ps3 kids gets all exited over the big push in sales from Sony.

Just have to do some bashing :)

And yes, there is no questions about that. IT IS GREAT.

But at the same time claim the biggest comeback? The beating of wii? The end of 360?

What price did Sony pay to get back in the game?

We are talking about a complete hardware revision AND a 100 dollar pricecut at the same time. Great for consumers and sales but not so great for the company. Since when has a new revision of a console directly been sold at a cheaper price then the old model? How bad will it hurt Sony to play 2 big aces at the same time?

Sure the boost has been great but both Microsoft and especially Nintendo has enough room to counter and Sony is all out of cards for a long time.

360 droped 50-80 % without any complete change in the hardware. This while still making profit overall.

Wii hasn’t done anything. A drop with 50 dollars is on the way but we all know that Nintendo has enough room in the margins to decrease it A LOT more, and would have no problem to make a hardware revision.

So yes great for consumers and sales but now they are left with no cards to play on the hardware side, more then adding bigger HDD and bundles, they will continue to lose money on the console. So they have no cards to play for a loooong time.

360 can still se a hardware revision, can still do som hefty pricedrop. And Wii can do the same.

So yes good comeback, but for how long? And what will happen when the completion fires back?

BIGGEST sacrifice in console history – New revision selling 100 dollars cheaper then the old version at a loss……………….great.

toffee flavour please...

No one can prove that 360 hardware is profitable. You know why? Because Microsoft has made it impossible to find out, whats a likely reason for this? Probably because its not profitable, however game sales make up the difference.

Research for a new PS3 design is costly, but that new design uses fewer components, fewer materials, and is a simpler design, so it's likely that any loss on each unit is relatively low, but still a loss. And like Microsoft, Sony can fall back on software sales to make up the difference, however they can also fall back on PSP and PS2 hardware, as well as PSP and PS2 software.

In reality Sony has made a great move that will cost very little in comparison to the rewards from it.

also the save money on shipping due smaller box and package.
on the long run they save money. also the playstation brand as a whole it's profitable.

sony just waited til both were ready.

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With one post or so every few weeks or months.. and with a post history of bashing PS3 and Pro 360 posts. Did someones real account get enough of positive PS3 threads? Did it hurt too much?

It's no less imposible for Sony or Nintendo.

Nintendo is easy to follow both consoles at once, but very difficult to split Wii from DS.

Sony it was easy to follow PS brand, but difficult to split them apart (I made some estimations myself, and it was only easier than doing it for Nintendo because of the scattered release dates for the consoles, in addition to some consoles being profitable and some taking losses)
Now however they have combined PS brand into other parts of Sony.

The 360 I would say is a similar difficulty for guessing at than the others, (than Sony's was) though there is probably a larger margin of error as I have no idea what the other parts of the EDD might be making.
I would guess though that the X360 at least broke even last fiscal quarter, but as it has now had another price cut I have no idea again.

360 did make money according to MS, and got break even at the pricecut. So yes black numbers makes it pretty accurate that they make money, maybe not much but money. Consider that MS has no other platform in the segment to help.

Sure we will never now for sure but we can assume.

Considering that Sony just lately made black numbers with all PS brands combined it’s not easy to say that software and PSP/PS3 will make up the loss.

The profit made lately is still extremely small considering 2 other profitable platforms and software sales from3 plattform!

Sure the slim cost less to produce but still! 100 dollar cut! And that for the final consumer! There is no way that the cut of components clear ¼ of the old cost.

No doubt the move was needed but how often do we see a producer come out with a new model at a lower price? Normally you release a new model at a higher price to ride the wave. DS -> DSi – PS2 -> PS2 slim PSP -> PSP 2000 -> PSP 3000 -> PSPGo….all machines had a higher price then the old model.

Just saying that playing 2 MONSTER cards is strange and can be dangerous, never done before. 100 dollar is a very hefty priceut, how often does that happen?

Sure Nintendo is in the best position, no doubt they have the biggest room for pricecut.

Sure it is hard to exactly calculate PS3 but since they've said them self that Slim was loosing money we donät have to speculate. Since it looses money at launch it will clearly do so for the rest of the year.

360 made break even 2008, got a profit but after the cut they where back on even ---- according to forbes. Since all 360 consoles has japser now they are surely in profit again.

The problem for Sonys is........nearing break even -> has to reply the moves of the competition -> losing money -> nearing break even -> has to reply the moves of the competition.

In the PS2 race they hade no competition to battle with, they had the initative which they don't have today. 3 years without profit is not good and at last place you have to awnser to competition if you don't want to lag behind

lol you must be bored bro if you had to do some bashing =P

Technically they are losing money, but the problem is trying to get people to buy PS3 games. Alot of people own one and just don't buy any. If they started getting some heavy selling exclusives they can make up lost revenue.