if iran have secret nuclear plant, I can't imaging how many the USA have.
if iran have secret nuclear plant, I can't imaging how many the USA have.
TheRealMafoo said:
Iran would not be a full scale war. We would just destroy the locations that generate nuclear material, and then cut them off from the rest of the world financially. |
Well yeah, that is the kind of war the US is awesome at. They were talking about an invasion though.
Sure we could go in, blow up their shit and be out easy...
We have better bombers and fighters then anybody.

The problem with going to war with Iran is that they can (supposedly) easily block the strait of Hormuz, which would be a big problem for oil shipments and such...
It could cause big problems for several months for the whole world.
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Iran are causing a lot of problems no doubt
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And now Iran conducts some missile tests, US is clearly using the dropping of its proposed missle shield to get Russia to drop support for Iran...
I get the feeling this could get ugly. The major Western powers simply do not trust Iran not to weaponzie, and Israel remains able and likely to act on its own if it thinks for a second any of this could result in the use of a WMD on their territory.
Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...
| megaman.2. said: Iran are causing a lot of problems no doubt |
With a potential capacity of hosting only 3000 Uranium enrichment centrifuges capable of making one small bomb over the course of a year, with a supposed secret nuclear energy plant to operate on top of that, I doubt a serious capacity exists.
No country is that stupid to detonate only one or two bombs and subsequently have every country in the world declare war on them... Are they?
If Iran are not making a bomb and it is actually a nuclear facility then hopefully they should realise that transparency is the best way to operate.
... I'm not actually sure what my point was there lol.
highwaystar101 said:
With a potential capacity of hosting only 3000 Uranium enrichment centrifuges capable of making one small bomb over the course of a year, with a supposed secret nuclear energy plant to operate on top of that, I doubt a serious capacity exists. No country is that stupid to detonate only one or two bombs and subsequently have every country in the world declare war on them... Are they? If Iran are not making a bomb and it is actually a nuclear facility then hopefully they should realise that transparency is the best way to operate.
... I'm not actually sure what my point was there lol. |
Iran... may be that stupid.
When you look at the country, it's one that is run by a right wing extremist government that is losing the wills of the people and they know it.
They rigged the current election to try and stop the tide. (Well the even more right wing group of the leader group.)
Say you've got the people are the door, screaming for regime change... it's game over your going to be hung anyway... why wouldn't you fire off a bomb or two at Israel and/or Europe?
You'd go down a hero. (To some people.)
You sure as hell wouldn't be forgotten from history or just known as "The guy who let the dictatorship fall apart."
Nuclear Deterrants only work when you have stuff to lose. When you have seemingly nothing to lose...
Or... some of the Revolutionary Guard could escape with the nukes.
Or a bomb could be smuggled to terrorists...
All kinds of stuff could happen.

| PDF said: Sanctions historically dont work. The USA and no European country will attack Iran. We will let Israel handle it if it comes to it and tell them "no dont we should talk more" while we give them hand shakes and pat them on the back No country besides USA ever got nukes for offensive plans. They get them for defensive reasons. Iran will not attack any country even including israel. They want nukes as a deterrent of an attack on them. |
Oh really ?
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highwaystar101 said:
With a potential capacity of hosting only 3000 Uranium enrichment centrifuges capable of making one small bomb over the course of a year, with a supposed secret nuclear energy plant to operate on top of that, I doubt a serious capacity exists. No country is that stupid to detonate only one or two bombs and subsequently have every country in the world declare war on them... Are they? If Iran are not making a bomb and it is actually a nuclear facility then hopefully they should realise that transparency is the best way to operate.
... I'm not actually sure what my point was there lol. |
depends. I don't have a strong grasp on Iran's religious affiliation, but if it's strong, our reason does not apply.
Depending on what you believe, the optimum outcome, would be to detonate a nuke in the center of Israel, and then be murdered for doing so. If that's the best case scenario, you need not have more then one of them.
Plus, the only reason you have a 3000 centrifuges, is to make a bomb. For nuclear energy, you need more. This is why that plant was hidden.
TheRealMafoo said:
depends. I don't have a strong grasp on Iran's religious affiliation, but if it's strong, our reason does not apply. Depending on what you believe, the optimum outcome, would be to detonate a nuke in the center of Israel, and then be murdered for doing so. If that's the best case scenario, you need not have more then one of them. Plus, the only reason you have a 3000 centrifuges, is to make a bomb. For nuclear energy, you need more. This is why that plant was hidden. |
TRM: Mahmoud is a twelver. He believes that the 12th Imam must return to wage Armageddon (something like the return of Jesus only with an aggressor) and that it is MA's job to bring this about. He means what he says when he states "Israel should be wiped off of the map."
Edit: See the following on the 12ver sect - http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/2/8/154740.shtml