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@Sqrl. Why do you write C02 not CO2?

 

Edit: And @OP. All that shows is that CO2 isn't the only thing to influence global climate. Nobody ever claimed it was.



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That's not what Al Gore and his weather machine told me.



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kowenicki said:
All the evidence i have ever seen tells us this...

It's the real incovenient truth... politicians dont like as then they lose another thing to tax us over.

WE arent causing climate cange.... climate change just HAPPENS.

Why was there an increase in temperature in medieval times? were those castles in England burning too much fossil fuel?

Huh, you know what, you're right, that gradual increase warmth over a few hundred years in the medieval period is probably the exact same thing that has caused that *huge* leap in the past 100 years or so.

Climate change does occur naturally, of course it does, I mean Earth has had countless ice ages, but that is a very large anomaly since the industrial revolution. I'm not suggesting the two are linked, but whatever is happening now is not the same as what was happening then.

 



@ highwaystar

That graph was proven false. http://www.skepticalscience.com/broken-hockey-stick.htm



OMG. There are so many more differences between today and 100 millions years ago that have to do with temperature than just carbon dioxide.

Carbon Dioxide DOES effect tempertature, it is a natural chemical property of CO2, how big an effect it has is up for debate but to claim it has NO effect is ridiculous.



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This man describes how I feel about the whole "climate change" issue.

 



Suppose you had a collection of pseudo-scientists claiming that the steady increase in sin was going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath in the not too distant future, and the only way you were going to avert this outcome was to stop sinning or to pay tithes to a religious body to alleviate your sin. The only supporting evidence they really have is computer models which assume sin is going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath, and supposed increases in extreme weather which could easily be attributed to increased tracking and reporting of extreme weather. You know and can demonstrate that the people funding the research are either fundamentalists or will directly or indirectly see a cut of the tithes and will profit from it; and any contradicting research is discredited immediately if it receives any funding from a company which has a product which could be considered sinful. To what extent would you believe that you needed to change your lifestyle or pay tithes to avert this holy wrath? In what way is the situation I presented any different from the Global Warming debate?



HappySqurriel said:

Suppose you had a collection of pseudo-scientists claiming that the steady increase in sin was going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath in the not too distant future, and the only way you were going to avert this outcome was to stop sinning or to pay tithes to a religious body to alleviate your sin. The only supporting evidence they really have is computer models which assume sin is going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath, and supposed increases in extreme weather which could easily be attributed to increased tracking and reporting of extreme weather. You know and can demonstrate that the people funding the research are either fundamentalists or will directly or indirectly see a cut of the tithes and will profit from it; and any contradicting research is discredited immediately if it receives any funding from a company which has a product which could be considered sinful. To what extent would you believe that you needed to change your lifestyle or pay tithes to avert this holy wrath? In what way is the situation I presented any different from the Global Warming debate?


I think the difference is that a lot of "real" scientists claim that global warming is happening, which is a pretty big difference in my book. Unless of course you think that any scientist that might disagree with your take is a "psuedo scientist", in that case I have just wasted a couple hundred letters here.



Crashdown77 said:
HappySqurriel said:

Suppose you had a collection of pseudo-scientists claiming that the steady increase in sin was going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath in the not too distant future, and the only way you were going to avert this outcome was to stop sinning or to pay tithes to a religious body to alleviate your sin. The only supporting evidence they really have is computer models which assume sin is going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath, and supposed increases in extreme weather which could easily be attributed to increased tracking and reporting of extreme weather. You know and can demonstrate that the people funding the research are either fundamentalists or will directly or indirectly see a cut of the tithes and will profit from it; and any contradicting research is discredited immediately if it receives any funding from a company which has a product which could be considered sinful. To what extent would you believe that you needed to change your lifestyle or pay tithes to avert this holy wrath? In what way is the situation I presented any different from the Global Warming debate?


I think the difference is that a lot of "real" scientists claim that global warming is happening, which is a pretty big difference in my book. Unless of course you think that any scientist that might disagree with your take is a "psuedo scientist", in that case I have just wasted a couple hundred letters here.

Very few "real" scientists will make the claim that increases in man made CO2 are leading to long term cataclysmic changes to the climate based on a short term warming trend and unproven climate models.



HappySqurriel said:
Crashdown77 said:
HappySqurriel said:

Suppose you had a collection of pseudo-scientists claiming that the steady increase in sin was going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath in the not too distant future, and the only way you were going to avert this outcome was to stop sinning or to pay tithes to a religious body to alleviate your sin. The only supporting evidence they really have is computer models which assume sin is going to lead to cataclysmic holy wrath, and supposed increases in extreme weather which could easily be attributed to increased tracking and reporting of extreme weather. You know and can demonstrate that the people funding the research are either fundamentalists or will directly or indirectly see a cut of the tithes and will profit from it; and any contradicting research is discredited immediately if it receives any funding from a company which has a product which could be considered sinful. To what extent would you believe that you needed to change your lifestyle or pay tithes to avert this holy wrath? In what way is the situation I presented any different from the Global Warming debate?


I think the difference is that a lot of "real" scientists claim that global warming is happening, which is a pretty big difference in my book. Unless of course you think that any scientist that might disagree with your take is a "psuedo scientist", in that case I have just wasted a couple hundred letters here.

Very few "real" scientists will make the claim that increases in man made CO2 are leading to long term cataclysmic changes to the climate based on a short term warming trend and unproven climate models.

Ahhh, aye, I must have misunderstood. I think that a lot of real scientists feel that we have an upward trend in global temperature, and I don't think all of them have completely written off some kind of human influence. I guess that was all I was saying.