"As for publishers griping about not selling, I think it's a way overblown internet concept. Really, how often do publishers have to come out and say they are happy with their Wii sales to get this across to people. Games like No More Heroes having sequels happen aren't happening because games aren't selling. And there is a ton of 3rd party game support that has started to appear this year."

It's the fact that HD games get bigger sales, while ignoring that the high cost means they need those bigger sales, and that HD games are usually deliberately in more popular genres, whiles Wii games can afford to be niche.

i agree. there are a few gems such as little kings story and muramasa, and madworld, that are great games, but reviewers such as ign tend to overrate them to compensate for giving out so many low scores to most shovelware and average games.

I boycott this two games.
I want spyborg sold less than bionic and developers must closed the studio

Spyborg represent all the shitsoftware in wii.
if you buy this game you are kill the wii

The same way your killing english?

Pretty sure we want to see more developers take chances with games like  Sypborgs on the Wii, its not outstanding but its still pretty good. Im buying it even if it will try to murder my Wii.

What the hell happend to Spyborgs. Last time I saw it, it looked like a quirky Ratchet and Clank style platformer come shooter, perfect for the Wii market and a lot of fun.

Now its just some grey, generic brawling game with no reason at all to stand out. They've completely sucked the life out of the game...

You got a real point here, Maelstrome.

I can see a lot of players out there really act not like children, but as crazy people! Ready to argue, brag and even make death threats over an internet argument about their favorite videogames.

C~mon, remember when a Sonic fan threatened to kill Matt Casamassina and his family because of the Sonic and the Dark Knight review? That was downright bizarre.

Over here we´re talking, but the subject aint fanboysm, its lack of innovation leading to lack of sales.

Lack os sales which, by the way, takes us to lack of new and good titles, and makes everybody unhappy.

What´s the basic difference between those two games: No More Heroes and Spyborgs?

That difference that made No More Heroes into a franchise, with lots of fans through the internet, and will make Spyborgs forgotten in a few weeks?

NMH had style. A wacky style. Meaning a main hook to keep you playing.

Even if it was (very) flawed, it kept you interested. (i liked the motion control too!!!)

Spyborgs, as far as read about it, do not have any of this.

Is just a brawler, nothing stands. 

TMNT certainly does not suck. It definitely didn't live up to its potential (damn roster), but it's a solid Brawl clone (which i can now say definitively, because Amazon delivered it a day early, and i've had an hour to test all the basic characters), which makes it better than pretty much every other fighting game out there by default

You do realize that Capcom is the King of Sequels?

Not everyone on here has English as a first language ;)