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zexen_lowe on 23 September 2009
nordlead said:
zexen_lowe said:
nordlead said:

Ok, another serious question since not much is happening.

Do we know how many mafia/townsfolk members there are or is everything randomly chosen (within some bounds)?

We don't know for sure, but we can easily speculate. I know that WoW won't unbalance the game, and as such, she won't break the golden rule of one mafia per 3 townies. Given we're 14, that leaves 3 mafia. Of course, that doesn't mean there isn't a serial killer between us, or a pro-mafia role like a Traitor. But I think we can safely assume 3 mafia

1) WoW is a guy and there are no women on the internet unless they provide pictures. It is a fact of life. For this you deserve to be lynched, so my vote is staying for now.

2) 1:3 would lend more nicely to 4 mafia members, as you'd only be down one town folk, which isn't too bad compared to having 3 extra town folk. Either way you are right that there are probably at least 3 mafia.

3) I'm not familiar with all of the "extra" roles. can someone explain them to me. I know of a few, but I might as well have a full list.

1) I'm not entering this debate AGAIN. I've always called WoW a she, and always will

2) Actually, you'd be down by two, as the minimum is 16 people for 4 mafia. And I think the rounding always benefits the town, since a mafia more than necessary may make it impossible for the town to win (check the Round 2, where we town won, but we couldn't afford a single mislynch because ¡t had one mafia in excess). On the other hand, an excess of townies may make it more difficult for the mafia, but as long as they play well they still have full chances

 

3) http://mikeburnfire.sitesled.com/mscumB.swf

Check this out, it offers a good explanation of most of the special roles. We won't be using 75% of them EVER (like for example, most of the roles that involve something during the day), but you can get a good idea of what may be included. For the record, we've used so far (may be missing some) Arsonist/Firefighter, Traitor, Lie Detector, Reporter, Insane Cop, Vigilante, Deputy, Poisoner, Body Snatcher (in that page it appears as bus driver) and a couple more

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

This one has a good list of roles too




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dsister44 on 23 September 2009

Since we just voting for random people

 

Vote: Axumblade



Final-Fan on 23 September 2009
zexen_lowe said:
nordlead said:
zexen_lowe said:
she won't break the golden rule of one mafia per 3 townies.

1:3 would lend more nicely to 4 mafia members, as you'd only be down one town folk, which isn't too bad compared to having 3 extra town folk. Either way you are right that there are probably at least 3 mafia.

Actually, you'd be down by two, as the minimum is 16 people for 4 mafia. 

That's a nice golden rule you've got there.  Be a shame if something were to, uh, happen to it.  

Vote zexen?   



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outlawauron on 23 September 2009

Well, I'm anti-mafia and pro-town.



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Words Of Wisdom on 23 September 2009
Person Voting To Lynch ( Lynched | Murdered ) Identity

Day 1
 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5  
outlawauron
 No Lynch




dsister44
 axumblade




SciFiBoy
 No Lynch




Gnizmo
 zexen_lowe
  

 
c03n3nj0  




RCTjunkie





insomniac17





invisible29
 No Lynch



 
Final-fan
 Vetteman94




zexen_lowe
 No Lynch




axumblade



 
Dgc1808            
nordlead  zexen_lowe          
Vetteman94 RCTjunkie
         


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insomniac17 on 23 September 2009

Whoa, haven't seen a first day like this in a while. As of now, I'm not convinced of any of the accused being mafia, but at least we have some suspicions. I'll hold off on voting for a bit; even though it's the first day, I'd rather not lynch a townie if we can help it.



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Final-Fan on 23 September 2009
Vetteman94 said:
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
While I do agree that voting to lynch on the first day is a good move, trusting the roll of the dice is not.  RCT coming right out and admitting he is Townsfolk right from the beginning is quite suspicious,  since there is no need for roleclaiming at this point.
Vote:  RCTJunkie

Suspicious?  There may be a LIE DETECTOR.  He's the first person I noticed to say something detectable.  
I might disagree with Gnizmo's reasoning, which I really want to hear, but this makes me vote to lynch anyway.  
Vote Vetteman94
Either you're dumb or mafia IMO.  At this point we can afford to lose a dumb townie IMO.   

And there may not be a LIE DETECTOR.  But even so that only works on one person a night, his odds of getting checked on are slim the first night, because everyone is still in the game and is a viable option to be mafia.  

Thanks for calling me dumb, didnt know insults were allowed.  Either way I have played this game a hundred times on other forums,  what he did was a classic move mafia members make.  But that fine, continue with you vote and you will see I was actually a simple townsfolk and you wasted a chance at someone else

Was putting LIE DETECTOR in caps really so egregious you had to call me out for it?  And I think it was fairly in character -- I know guys who complain about that sort of thing in game when they're innocent.  

I mean, I guess if you go by the standard of "if anything and I mean anything remotely unusual is done by anyone then dogpile on them" then it was a reason to vote ... but that's why I usually hate first day lynches.   

And I certainly think he has good odds of getting his ass investigated now, doesn't he?   



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outlawauron on 23 September 2009

Hey WoW, I voted no lynch on the last page...



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Vetteman94 on 23 September 2009
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
While I do agree that voting to lynch on the first day is a good move, trusting the roll of the dice is not.  RCT coming right out and admitting he is Townsfolk right from the beginning is quite suspicious,  since there is no need for roleclaiming at this point.
Vote:  RCTJunkie

Suspicious?  There may be a LIE DETECTOR.  He's the first person I noticed to say something detectable.  
I might disagree with Gnizmo's reasoning, which I really want to hear, but this makes me vote to lynch anyway.  
Vote Vetteman94
Either you're dumb or mafia IMO.  At this point we can afford to lose a dumb townie IMO.   

And there may not be a LIE DETECTOR.  But even so that only works on one person a night, his odds of getting checked on are slim the first night, because everyone is still in the game and is a viable option to be mafia.  

Thanks for calling me dumb, didnt know insults were allowed.  Either way I have played this game a hundred times on other forums,  what he did was a classic move mafia members make.  But that fine, continue with you vote and you will see I was actually a simple townsfolk and you wasted a chance at someone else

Was putting LIE DETECTOR in caps really so egregious you had to call me out for it?  And I think it was fairly in character -- I know guys who complain about that sort of thing in game when they're innocent.  

I mean, I guess if you go by the standard of "if anything and I mean anything remotely unusual is done by anyone then dogpile on them" then it was a reason to vote ... but that's why I usually hate first day lynches.   

And I certainly think he has good odds of getting his ass investigated now, doesn't he?   

I was probably jumping the gun on him a little I just found his complaining to be a little odd since I dont see it often but when I do its a mafia guy trying to be clever.  

Well we kinda have to go by that mentality now since nothing of any value has really happened yet,  once we start getting information then we can start to pick apart the mafia.  I will change my vote if he can give me a good reason but as it stands it will not change.

I'm sure his odds are getting better by the minute



Final-Fan on 23 September 2009

I wish we knew if there was a serial killer or siblings or some other killer. If there's not then no lynch would be better because an odd number of people get the same number of days as (odd + 1) do, and better odds of guessing the mafia at random -- and I believe we have 14 people.

So no lynch on the first day wouldn't hurt us in that case.



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