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Reasonable said:
Well, I of course believe you absolutely must vote.

But right now there is no party I would feel comfortable voting for. I have serious issues with every parties stance in some form or other.

So I'm in a bit of a pickle. Maybe I should run myself...

I guess the normal response is to pick the party I least disagree with, but for the first time I really find myself thinking I wish there was a vote for 'no confidence' in all parties - I'd be mightily curious how many people would feel the same.

You could void your ballot paper, but I guess if you do that you might as well not vote. Just go for the lesser of evils then I guess.



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Vote for someone at least even if it means picking a name out of a hat. I hate it that people don't vote, especially women who thought for their right to vote and lots died to get it. Then people complain about the result and well....

Its disgusting not to vote.



highwaystar101 said:

Oh yeah and Scifiboy just pointing out that a lot of his friends would get harassed under the BNP (although he said it in a very rude way), which is true, a good few of my friends would be harassed by them too because they are second or third generation immigrants, even though they are as British as me, if not more British.

Kicking out* people born in this country because of their lineage is absurd, but the BNP want to do it.

* Well not kicking out exactly, the BNP want to pay loads of the taxpayers money to second and third generation immigrants in exchange for them to go back to the country their forefathers came from.

not just my friends, ME, my grandmother is Irish, no doubt they hate them too, im not an "anglo-saxon" as there leader insists on having, also of note, when on TV, there leader (asshole) always says "christians" too, as an atheist, they really wouldnt like me at all, I despise the BNP...

@ Slimebeast - most immigrants to the UK come here short term to work or study, the ones that work boost the economy, closing the borders and leaving the EU would significantly damage our relations with other European nations, as we rely on Europe for trade, it would be stupid to do so.


freedom of speech, my views are much the same as Highwaystar's and Tombi's, sure im expressing my views angrily, but I find the BNP's views HIGHLY offensive, so of course im angry that anyone would support them.



highwaystar101 said:
Reasonable said:
Well, I of course believe you absolutely must vote.

But right now there is no party I would feel comfortable voting for. I have serious issues with every parties stance in some form or other.

So I'm in a bit of a pickle. Maybe I should run myself...

I guess the normal response is to pick the party I least disagree with, but for the first time I really find myself thinking I wish there was a vote for 'no confidence' in all parties - I'd be mightily curious how many people would feel the same.

You could void your ballot paper, but I guess if you do that you might as well not vote. Just go for the lesser of evils then I guess.

Yeah, that's what I know I'll do.  I take the view if you don't vote you're not just forefeiting your input into the country's direction, but putting yourself in a position where you can hardly grumble at whatever the goverment did as you were too lazy to vote.

Hopefully when the next elections roll around one of the parties will stand out for me a bit more.  I'm not a 'lifer' voter who sticks to one party no matter what, I vote for the party I really believe is right at that time - hopefully one of them will look like the right choice!

 



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Reasonable said:
highwaystar101 said:
Reasonable said:
Well, I of course believe you absolutely must vote.

But right now there is no party I would feel comfortable voting for. I have serious issues with every parties stance in some form or other.

So I'm in a bit of a pickle. Maybe I should run myself...

I guess the normal response is to pick the party I least disagree with, but for the first time I really find myself thinking I wish there was a vote for 'no confidence' in all parties - I'd be mightily curious how many people would feel the same.

You could void your ballot paper, but I guess if you do that you might as well not vote. Just go for the lesser of evils then I guess.

Yeah, that's what I know I'll do.  I take the view if you don't vote you're not just forefeiting your input into the country's direction, but putting yourself in a position where you can hardly grumble at whatever the goverment did as you were too lazy to vote.

Hopefully when the next elections roll around one of the parties will stand out for me a bit more.  I'm not a 'lifer' voter who sticks to one party no matter what, I vote for the party I really believe is right at that time - hopefully one of them will look like the right choice!

 

what are your views?



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When is the next real election in the UK, for prime minister?

And is Labor still the favortie to win?



Slimebeast said:
When is the next real election in the UK, for prime minister?

And is Labor still the favortie to win?

on or by June 3rd 2010

Labour have no chance, public opinion is against them and all the media

Conservatives are favourites as the mass ignorami (people who vote with there parents or based on media favour, too many people I meet, say "I dont know much about politics, but ill vote tory as theyre not labour" - god i hate that, think before you vote ffs) will vote for them as "otherwise its wasting your vote" not to mention the right wing media is galvonised behind them

Liberal Democrats will win the youth/liberal vote probably, but not enough of either group will vote to put them in power




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Slight left leanings but comfortable with a capitalist framework so long as it is regulated. Non-religious and fairly liberal.

Initially 'New Labour' seemed just the ticket for me - sadly the promise wasn't delivered. Conservative I'm fine with many aspects of their policies but not their views on UK future, Europe and how wealth and rights should be mandated.

Liberal's I like in principle but they always seem somehow a little weak and vague.

In a more idealistic view I'm pro the idea of a global state, so tend to lean towards joining Europe etc. in principle as I'd like to see more unified global laws and regulations and a real chance at consistent human quality of life everywhere.

Regarding your Avatar, I guess you could say I'm essentially pro the Federation!



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Reasonable said:
^^
Slight left leanings but comfortable with a capitalist framework so long as it is regulated. Non-religious and fairly liberal.

Initially 'New Labour' seemed just the ticket for me - sadly the promise wasn't delivered. Conservative I'm fine with many aspects of their policies but not their views on UK future, Europe and how wealth and rights should be mandated.

Liberal's I like in principle but they always seem somehow a little weak and vague.

In a more idealistic view I'm pro the idea of a global state, so tend to lean towards joining Europe etc. in principle as I'd like to see more unified global laws and regulations and a real chance at consistent human quality of life everywhere.

Regarding your Avatar, I guess you could say I'm essentially pro the Federation!

okay, sure, lol

your in a similar position to me in some of those respects (though im more Liberal than most, lol), im thinking of the Greens myself as the Lib Dems seem confused and desperate to me



talking of "freedom of speech"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8271556.stm

query: wasnt some guy banned from coming here for inciting hatred of gay people?

query: if inciting hatred against them is illegal here, why have we not only allowed in, but invited another much more well known person who does so in?