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Rath said:
Khuutra said:
dtewi said:
 

This is very, very confusing.

Welcome to physics!

Yeah. I still can't get my head around how an electron in the double slit experiment can go through both slits at the same time and interfere with itself. I definately can't get my head around why observing it stops it from happening.


This is why I love physics! The electron is a wave function, until you 'break' the wave function by observing it. Crazy.

Diffraction is an example of the Uncertainty Principle. The more accurately you know the position of the electron as it passes through the slit (by making the slit the same size as an electron), the less accurately you know where it will end up on the screen (a bigger diffraction).

Also, if you use an electron detector that is only 50% reliable, you will observe a pattern that is halfway between an interference pattern and the 2 peaks you would expect from a particle.



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Khuutra said:
Rath said:
Khuutra said:
dtewi said:

This is very, very confusing.

Welcome to physics!

Yeah. I still can't get my head around how an electron in the double slit experiment can go through both slits at the same time and interfere with itself. I definately can't get my head around why observing it stops it from happening.

The best thing about physics is that I understand very little of it (outside of everything you could learn in high school and in A Brief History of Time) and it still manages to scare the Hell out of me. I can only iagine what sort of madness must come with greater understanding.

I'm reading 'Universe in a nutshell' right now, it's really good although I feel as though I've read half of it already. It was part of my summer reading list which, well, hasn't exactly gone to plan. Actually, Tombi, I think you suggested universe in a nutshell for me at the beginning of the summer. Well I only just got round to reading it this week lol.



tombi123 said:
dtewi said:

Oooh. Fun nerdy terminology!

Multiple universes nor extra dimensions surprise me completely. I mean, there must be space outside of the universe, an infinite void that may be populated with other universes. And extra spatial dimensions are impossible to physically comprehend, but I'm sure there are more than three.

What I'm interested in is if this is proof of the Big Bang.

EDIT: Do the extra dimensions mean spatial dimensions or am I making an ass of myself?


Yes spatial dimensions (although some theoretical physicists are suggesting that there maybe 2 time dimensions).

These extra dimensions are likely to be 'curled up' into a ball like shape, with a diameter of around the Planck Length (roughly 1.6*10^-35 meters).

There pretty much has to be 2 time dimensions i'd think.  Afterall... what we call time didn't always exist. (theoretically.)



What I love is that it seems at least in one of the models of the universe is that the four dimensions we know collapse down into two at small enough scales. Thats just bizarre.



dtewi said:
Khuutra said:
dtewi said:

Oooh. Fun nerdy terminology!

Multiple universes nor extra dimensions surprise me completely. I mean, there must be space outside of the universe, an infinite void that may be populated with other universes. And extra spatial dimensions are impossible to physically comprehend, but I'm sure there are more than three.

What I'm interested in is if this is proof of the Big Bang.

EDIT: Do the extra dimensions mean spatial dimensions or am I making an ass of myself?

I'm pretty sure that general relativity says there is no space outside of thhe universe - it's just the universe.

What? The universe is expanding, correct? That means for it to be expanding, there must be space for it to expand into, correct?

That's not the way it's thought to be, as such.  It's better to think of a ballon expanding with the universe being the inside of the ballon, the hard part is then getting your head around the idea that the ballon itself is the extent of everything, with nothing outside of it.

You see, theoretically, the Universe could be finite (i.e. it has a limited size) but unbounded (i.e. it's size, while finite, could grow and potentially without limit) or it could be finite but bounded (i.e. there is a limit to expansion, etc).

I believe the notion the Universe could be infinite (i.e. without end) is not currently felt to be very probable.

So in a sense the Universe is expanding not into empty space already there waiting for it to expanding into, but by expanding the space within it, like a ballon continuing to expand, or a box being unfolded.

I understand (I believe) many of the core concepts, but I think only a few really special folks can really think fully in those concepts without their heads hurting (note I'm not one of them, and my head is already hurting, but pleasantly).

 

 



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