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pastro243 on 17 September 2009

As noone responded to my new list with only active bands and artists here yoiu go again:


-Muse
-U2
-Pearl Jam
- Bon Jovi
- Aerosmith
-Radiohead
- The Killers
-Keane
-Iron Maiden
-Metallica
- Megadeth
-Incubus
- Coldplay
-Elton John
- Journey
-Linkin Park
-Jet
-Weezer
- James Blunt
- Guns N Roses
- Foo Fighters
-Artic Monkeys
-Travis
-System of a Down
-The Strokes
-Oasis
-Franz Ferdinand
-Phil Collins
-The Cure
-Cat Stevens
- Bad Religion
-Live
- Mika
-Rise Against
-The Offspring

There are the 36 ones I named before, now: Avenged Sevenfold, Greenday, Dream Theater, Andrea Boccelli, R.E.M, Kaiser Chiefs, Brandi Carlile, The Hives, The Verve, The Smashin Pumpkins, The White Stripes, Wolfmother, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers.





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Jmoney2786 on 17 September 2009

i find it funny u put in Linkin Park...since they used his music to mashup for an album....



Tayne on 17 September 2009
pastro243 said:
As noone responded to my new list with only active bands and artists here yoiu go again:


-Muse
-U2
-Pearl Jam
- Bon Jovi
- Aerosmith
-Radiohead
- The Killers
-Keane
-Iron Maiden
-Metallica
- Megadeth
-Incubus
- Coldplay
-Elton John
- Journey
-Linkin Park
-Jet
-Weezer
- James Blunt
- Guns N Roses
- Foo Fighters
-Artic Monkeys
-Travis
-System of a Down
-The Strokes
-Oasis
-Franz Ferdinand
-Phil Collins
-The Cure
-Cat Stevens
- Bad Religion
-Live
- Mika
-Rise Against
-The Offspring

There are the 36 ones I named before, now: Avenged Sevenfold, Greenday, Dream Theater, Andrea Boccelli, R.E.M, Kaiser Chiefs, Brandi Carlile, The Hives, The Verve, The Smashin Pumpkins, The White Stripes, Wolfmother, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers.



Thank you for your opinion.




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pastro243 on 18 September 2009
Tayne said:
pastro243 said:
As noone responded to my new list with only active bands and artists here yoiu go again:


-Muse
-U2
-Pearl Jam
- Bon Jovi
- Aerosmith
-Radiohead
- The Killers
-Keane
-Iron Maiden
-Metallica
- Megadeth
-Incubus
- Coldplay
-Elton John
- Journey
-Linkin Park
-Jet
-Weezer
- James Blunt
- Guns N Roses
- Foo Fighters
-Artic Monkeys
-Travis
-System of a Down
-The Strokes
-Oasis
-Franz Ferdinand
-Phil Collins
-The Cure
-Cat Stevens
- Bad Religion
-Live
- Mika
-Rise Against
-The Offspring

There are the 36 ones I named before, now: Avenged Sevenfold, Greenday, Dream Theater, Andrea Boccelli, R.E.M, Kaiser Chiefs, Brandi Carlile, The Hives, The Verve, The Smashin Pumpkins, The White Stripes, Wolfmother, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers.



Thank you for your opinion.


Now give me the prize you said you would give me.



- Our album on spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/56mEbEgyBYGzcDyZ1eMQ1v?si=hYKgir5YRSCrzywgGmV4oQ

- Our videoclip 

- My manga: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/blanca-the-world/list?title_no=313068

pastro243 on 18 September 2009
Jmoney2786 said:
i find it funny u put in Linkin Park...since they used his music to mashup for an album....


Whats wrong with that?  U2 worked with Greenday and U2 is better than greenday, as linkin park is better than Jay Z, they actually sing, in high tones, way harder than talking, which they do in their songs too.



- Our album on spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/56mEbEgyBYGzcDyZ1eMQ1v?si=hYKgir5YRSCrzywgGmV4oQ

- Our videoclip 

- My manga: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/blanca-the-world/list?title_no=313068

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Tayne on 18 September 2009
pastro243 said:
Tayne said:
pastro243 said:
As noone responded to my new list with only active bands and artists here yoiu go again:


-Muse
-U2
-Pearl Jam
- Bon Jovi
- Aerosmith
-Radiohead
- The Killers
-Keane
-Iron Maiden
-Metallica
- Megadeth
-Incubus
- Coldplay
-Elton John
- Journey
-Linkin Park
-Jet
-Weezer
- James Blunt
- Guns N Roses
- Foo Fighters
-Artic Monkeys
-Travis
-System of a Down
-The Strokes
-Oasis
-Franz Ferdinand
-Phil Collins
-The Cure
-Cat Stevens
- Bad Religion
-Live
- Mika
-Rise Against
-The Offspring

There are the 36 ones I named before, now: Avenged Sevenfold, Greenday, Dream Theater, Andrea Boccelli, R.E.M, Kaiser Chiefs, Brandi Carlile, The Hives, The Verve, The Smashin Pumpkins, The White Stripes, Wolfmother, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers.



Thank you for your opinion.


Now give me the prize you said you would give me.

Here is your prize.




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pastro243 on 18 September 2009
Tayne said:
pastro243 said:
Tayne said:
pastro243 said:
As noone responded to my new list with only active bands and artists here yoiu go again:


-Muse
-U2
-Pearl Jam
- Bon Jovi
- Aerosmith
-Radiohead
- The Killers
-Keane
-Iron Maiden
-Metallica
- Megadeth
-Incubus
- Coldplay
-Elton John
- Journey
-Linkin Park
-Jet
-Weezer
- James Blunt
- Guns N Roses
- Foo Fighters
-Artic Monkeys
-Travis
-System of a Down
-The Strokes
-Oasis
-Franz Ferdinand
-Phil Collins
-The Cure
-Cat Stevens
- Bad Religion
-Live
- Mika
-Rise Against
-The Offspring

There are the 36 ones I named before, now: Avenged Sevenfold, Greenday, Dream Theater, Andrea Boccelli, R.E.M, Kaiser Chiefs, Brandi Carlile, The Hives, The Verve, The Smashin Pumpkins, The White Stripes, Wolfmother, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers.



Thank you for your opinion.


Now give me the prize you said you would give me.

Here is your prize.


Thanks, looks delicious, Ill be eating it.



- Our album on spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/56mEbEgyBYGzcDyZ1eMQ1v?si=hYKgir5YRSCrzywgGmV4oQ

- Our videoclip 

- My manga: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/blanca-the-world/list?title_no=313068

Tayne on 18 September 2009
axumblade said:
Personally, I think it is a big deal that Jay-Z having the most #1 albums of any solo artist. Rap music is dog eat dog. If you make a bad album or a bad decision, people will linger over those decisions for years.

Look at all of the other rappers from when Jay-Z started his career. Most of them are nowhere when it comes to music right now. Jay-Z has managed to stay at the top of the game for over 10 years and he is still there.

Look at some other people who were big when he was first starting out:

Wu-Tang haven't been the same since ODB died. I'm not even getting started on anybody from the "Bad Boy Family" because that was practically a joke while it was popular. And Missy practically lost her career when she lost her fat ass. Also, look at some of the biggest names from way back when Will Smith (now an actor), Ice Cube (family movie actor), and Iced T (detective on a cop show...irony at its finest).

The only other artist I can really compare Jay-Z's continuous success to is Nas. And I don't want to hear the "what about eminem?" garbage because he is the Perez Hilton of rap music, nothing but a big talking jackass preying on pop stars to keep his own career out of the grave, since pop stars don't defend themselves often.

Now would I put him above elvis? It's hard to say, I enjoy both of their music for different reasons and don't like some of of their music as well for different reasons. I don't think it really matters who has the top selling CD or is the top selling artist of all time, moreso it's just a record for somebody else to try to beat in the future. If you like Elvis then you like Elvis. If you like Jay-Z, you like Jay-Z. If you like Chopin, then you like Chopin. If you like Muse, then you like Muse. I personally like all of the ones I just mentioned, so I am better then all of you. :D

I like that comparison.

Your post reminds me of a Nas lyric:

"I survived the livest n****s around, that's longer than more than half of you clowns.

I used to cook before I had the game took. Even though my change came like Sam Cooke."




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FaRmLaNd on 18 September 2009
Craan said:
FaRmLaNd said:
Except that he hasn't sold anywhere near as many albums or singles as Elvis. Which means he isn't bigger. Hitting number 1 is a great milestone but it doesn't mean his music will have the legs the Kings music has.

For example look at AC/DC's Back in Black Album. It never hit number 1 in America and yet its shipped over 22 million copies there.

Again hitting number 1 is great, but it really doesn't mean the album will go on to sell anything remarkable in the long term.

To be fair to Jay Z Elvis had a 40 years headstart when It came to selling records.

Very very true. Look, I'm not trying to say that what Jay Z has done isn't impressive, it abosolutely is.

But thats exactly the point, Elvis's music is still relevant and selling well now. Hell his albums of  number 1's sold something like  10 million copies ww this decade. There is no way of knowing how relevant Jay Z's music will be in 40 years. Which is exaclt my point, there is no point saying he's bigger then Elvis yet. Its far too soon.

But people forget just how big Elvis is, he's the 3rd highest selling act in America ever. He's sold more albums then the likes of MJ, U2, AC/DC, Zepplin. And more then any of them WW Bar the Beatles (or depending on sources MJ but thats besides the point).

ALSO, can people that are saying hip-hop isn't music just shut up, you may not like it but rejecting it as music reeks of ignorance. Its exactly the same as Classical music snobs that snub rock. There are plenty of innovative artists in the genre. Hell look at Outkast or MIA. Both very interesting acts.  If you can't see that then fine, you don't have to like it (I'm not a huge fan myself) but that does not mean it isn't music.



ShadowSoldier on 18 September 2009
FaRmLaNd said:
Craan said:
FaRmLaNd said:
Except that he hasn't sold anywhere near as many albums or singles as Elvis. Which means he isn't bigger. Hitting number 1 is a great milestone but it doesn't mean his music will have the legs the Kings music has.

For example look at AC/DC's Back in Black Album. It never hit number 1 in America and yet its shipped over 22 million copies there.

Again hitting number 1 is great, but it really doesn't mean the album will go on to sell anything remarkable in the long term.

To be fair to Jay Z Elvis had a 40 years headstart when It came to selling records.

Very very true. Look, I'm not trying to say that what Jay Z has done isn't impressive, it abosolutely is.

But thats exactly the point, Elvis's music is still relevant and selling well now. Hell his albums of  number 1's sold something like  10 million copies ww this decade. There is no way of knowing how relevant Jay Z's music will be in 40 years. Which is exaclt my point, there is no point saying he's bigger then Elvis yet. Its far too soon.

But people forget just how big Elvis is, he's the 3rd highest selling act in America ever. He's sold more albums then the likes of MJ, U2, AC/DC, Zepplin. And more then any of them WW Bar the Beatles (or depending on sources MJ but thats besides the point).

ALSO, can people that are saying hip-hop isn't music just shut up, you may not like it but rejecting it as music reeks of ignorance. Its exactly the same as Classical music snobs that snub rock. There are plenty of innovative artists in the genre. Hell look at Outkast or MIA. Both very interesting acts.  If you can't see that then fine, you don't have to like it (I'm not a huge fan myself) but that does not mean it isn't music.

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