Well, racism is just grouping people together, and due to a few in that group being bad apples, applying it to the entire group.

Being you just did it, I am not sure why you have a problem with it.

Oh, and Obama approval rating is 44% for white, 61% for Hispanics, and a whopping 93% for blacks.

I wonder why it's so high in the black community? Anything you can think of that would keep his rating that high?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/politics.aspx?CSTS=pollnav&to=POLL-Politics-News

O...K...

Communist hater is a milky cracker...

I'm white, is that racist?

Not at all.

Both were rude and stupid but the question is what is the reason behind them being rude and stupid. One could be motivated by race and one by something else, in which case one is racist and the other isn't.

The fact is that we can't see into their heads so we can actually only guess at their motivation as neither of them were blatant enough for us to be definitive on whether they were racist or not.

I agree his argument is a hasty generalization fallacy.  But it does have some merit.  Given the far right is moving further up towards authoritarianism since 9/11 then it's quite obvious.  Been loads of extreme nationalism where it was the mentality of either your with us or against us.  Thus more racist nationalism where the country tries to find what stigmas define a country and what don't.

So I would say a lot of the mainstream far right aren't necessarily in that group, but knowing a lot of the far right radicals just around me in my state, a lot of them are going to associate that social stigmas of what defines an American as being white... more likely as white, Protestant, and conservative.  Thus is how you get a few of those bad apples that you saw at the Tea Part protest last weekend.

So although I don't think their is a majority of the far right that have this association of extreme nationalism wiht a race, there are definitely some that do.  But his argument as the whole having elements of it is hasty generalization fallacy.  But it is true that the far right now has elements of this extreme nationalism... that's for sure.

I did explicitly note that it wasn't the entire group. There are 'elements of', bad apples in your words, the far right that have racist motivations.

Also yes, 'positive' racism in the black community gives him votes from there. Is that really a surprise?

You reply by doing exactly what I say you would do....were you wanting to prove my point with an example...or? 

Should I say thank you?

There is no such thing as positive racism.

You are either racist, or your not. To look at any group of people, and think due to a race trait something is better or worse about a person, is equally bad.

EDIT: I just realized you might not be implying that it's a good thing. If that's the case, I apologize.

Yes your notation was part of the typical liberal race bait play:

Pointing out that you don't want to marganlize legitimate complaints is part of the playbook...."Why...I don't know what yuo mean!  I'm not being unreasonable!!"

You can't be so naive to have not noticed that the only thing the left wants to talk about in regards to the protest is racism....can you?  I mean it is blatantly obvious they have no intention of discussing what they are actually protesting about ...you do see that....right?

I wasn't implying it was a good thing. Also are you dropping the accusation that I was stereotyping the entire far right as racist?

@Sqrl. What was your point again? I seem to have missed it.

I have to agree with Mafoo here.

Racism is racism, you can put shiny words in-front of it but its still just plain old racism.

Racism is not a one way street, it goes both ways.