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Mvp4eVa on 17 September 2009
Metsadah said:
Mvp4eVa said:
HanzoTheRazor said:
@Mvp4eVa

"I'd be fine if the next gen comes with 4gb of ram with same cpu and gpu just being overclocked..the only thing that's holding back these HD consoles from truly showing what they are capable of is the lack of ram. My prediction is, Microsoft will add at least 4gb of ram and if is possible overclock the cpu from 3.2ghz to 4.0ghz, same with the gpu increase the speed. This way the Next-Gen Xbox will be a cost efficient console to produce that may start selling under $250."

I like how u think. That extra ram alone would make the PS3 and 360 almost next gen consoles. With 45nm or smaller chips they can do this. Much less heat. Lets hope we see large ram and only slightly up graded everything elso in PS4 / 720.

It makes sense right? If Microsoft wants to make a budget console for next-gen

Microsoft should recycle some of the current internal components like, the tri-core cpu and the gpu and tweek them to be faster, from 3.2ghz to 4.0ghz and shrink the chip to 45nm or smaller for less energy consumption which make it run cooler and the GPU from 500mhz to 1.5ghz than all Microsoft should do is add 4gb of Ram that alone makes it a next-gen console.

That's if Microsoft wants to launch a console starting from $250. aka Nintendo Wii.

 

Now if Microsoft wants to launch a next-gen Xbox in 2012 at a price no higher than $400 ..

1) I think it will carry a HD-DVD drive, because it has a large storage capacity and its harder to duplicate games (piracy), nobody or hardly anybody have HD-DVD burners and only Microsoft will support the format for games.

2) Could have an ugraded overclocked quad-core cpu to be moderate or maybe come with a hybrid cpu/gpu combo if to manufactor keeps the Xbox under $400 when ready to be shipped ..

3) this time the next-gen Xbox will have a internal Harddrive.

4) If Microsoft would like for the next-gen Xbox in 2011 or 12 to have a long life span just add the most important component called RAM up to 6 to 8gb of Ram ..

I think those specs mentioned there will not exceed $400 at launch 3 years from now..

 

 

your not the smartest one around are you :)

MS will definately not use hd-dvd. The format is dead and the fight is over. It will never ever come back, not even for games. If they would pull something like that off it has to be a dual hd dvd and blu ray player where you could only play games if its an hd dvd. The first time around it was easy to accept it didnt have a blu ray drive. The next time it needs one, not only for the capacity but also to play blu ray movies. Yes, MS is aiming at digital content, but by 2012 the masses will not be ready for it. As well as the limited bandwith. These things take a huge amount of time to change.

I probably see MS putting loads of ram into their system, especcially if prices of ram remain this low. They might even go for an ssd, although thats probably wishfull thinking. internal hdd, i doubt it. They make too much money selling those things seperately. But you might be right on that one.

Ok Einstein, I guess you have the last word when Microsoft decides how to design a console.. :p

When I mentioned the HD-dvd drive I said "I think" as in maybe and didn't predicted as a fact..



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dorbin2009 on 17 September 2009

Can we finally just have a Microsoft console that uses and promotes PC hard drives? How about one that maintains some capability for Windows 7, or you know, allows for custom installation and running of PC games?

I'm a big fan of the Microsoft consoles, but seriously, they need to start realizing that us gamers are getting smarter and smarter by the year. They have one of the biggest advantages on their hands, and that is owning the number one (install base wise, calm yourself apple/linux fans) Operating system in the world. I don't really see the point in separating the two sectors anymore.

This is the reason why I want their next console to be at least 2012-2013. Hopefully by then the rules of engagement will have changed.



huaxiong90 on 17 September 2009

Some people, like Jon Feder of Take Two, think this generation will be longer than people think. The only upgrade I think the 360 needs is a Blu Ray drive.



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The Anarchyz on 17 September 2009
dorbin2009 said:
Can we finally just have a Microsoft console that uses and promotes PC hard drives? How about one that maintains some capability for Windows 7, or you know, allows for custom installation and running of PC games?

I'm a big fan of the Microsoft consoles, but seriously, they need to start realizing that us gamers are getting smarter and smarter by the year. They have one of the biggest advantages on their hands, and that is owning the number one (install base wise, calm yourself apple/linux fans) Operating system in the world. I don't really see the point in separating the two sectors anymore.

This is the reason why I want their next console to be at least 2012-2013. Hopefully by then the rules of engagement will have changed.

Ok, i agree with you on the HDD point (also wireless), in the Windows point, i think they should do it but COMPLETELY SEPARATED from the Console OS (like Sony did with the Other OS on the PS3 phat), the thing is, if they do that, it will be a lot easier to do a homebrew to play pirated games, so they need to come up with a restriction, if they do the "block the GPU" one (like PS3) PC games will not be playable, if they do SecuROM or any of that crappy DRM, the pirates still get the games and the legals are the ones with the problem... If they have a solution that keep pirates away and the legals happy, then bring it, if not, keep it away from consoles...



theRepublic on 17 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
ph4nt said:

So you like companies losing money on things they sell?

Selling the Ps3 at a loss was one of their dumbest moves ever (and still is) and has erased almost all the profits from the PS2 and PS1 eras, If you want to continue seeing Sony consoles, you better hope they start making money on their hardware from the get go.

The profits from the PS1 era haven't been touched from what I understand....

Going by this, if you add up the numbers starting from 2009 going backwards, you don't get a positive number until after you add fiscal year end 1999 (April 1, 1998 - March 31, 1999).  This means it takes all the profit of the PS2 and a portion of the profit of the PS1 to get back in the black.



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theRepublic on 17 September 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:

Considering the way memory prices are crashing, I hope next-gen returns to solid memory, AKA cartridges.

I can't wait until we get rid from optical drives and the massive amounts of reliability issues they introduce. Cartridge systems like the NES or the GENESIS are still working 15 years later. If you want to watch movies, get a dedicated player!

You and me both, brother.



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The Anarchyz on 20 September 2009
theRepublic said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

Considering the way memory prices are crashing, I hope next-gen returns to solid memory, AKA cartridges.

I can't wait until we get rid from optical drives and the massive amounts of reliability issues they introduce. Cartridge systems like the NES or the GENESIS are still working 15 years later. If you want to watch movies, get a dedicated player!

You and me both, brother.

I also want solid memory games back, but those need to have equal or more space than a Blu-Ray disc for less the price. Otherwise Ninty, Sony and MS won't do the jump back.

And the movies part, it's cool to have Digital Distribution, but disc-based movies still are a good advantage in the consoles, i say, a solid memory slot for games and disc slot for multipurpose (plus, USB slots also for multipurpose), and if the disc mechanical parts damage you still get to play the games.



Snake612 on 20 September 2009

I really hope Natal is not their next console. Anyways, I think in 2 years they should really get ready to release their next console.360 has had a good and long run and there aren't that many major updates to do to the system.



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shio on 20 September 2009
Slimebeast said:

^ I disagree. I think this gen was just perfect hardware and graphics wise, because still - after almost four years into this gen - the console versions are on par with PC versions, unlike past generations where the difference between console and PC was big almost from the very launch.

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