Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Well Hitler and other mass murderers were likely influenced by Darwins theories. The propaganda shows as much.
Though it's not like that makes Darwin responsible or a racist.
Though he probably was a racist. Who wasn't back then.
Regardless it's not like the Holocaust should be held against him. For all we know the Jews could of been scapegoated anyway.
It's not like scapegoating one race is something that was new to WW2.
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This post isn't really directed at you (because on half your points I do agree with you) but I'm quoting you because it relates to your post.
If the theory of evolution is evil and racist and the cause of the holocaust - it doesn't stop the theory of evolution being right. Its an appeal to the consqequences rather than an actual argument. Same thing with Darwin being racist, making ad hominem attacks on Darwin doesn't mean his theories are wrong.
Also does anybody else just love Wikipedias list of fallacies? =D
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I agree with that. I also believe in evolution.
Though I do people often spend time defending stuff they shouldn't just because they're afraid of such things.
Like people trying to say Darwin wasn't a racist, when evidence supported he was and he lived in a racist time.
I mean Auguste Comte was practically a supervillian. That doesn't make Sociology and Positivism either evil or wrong.
It's not like someone "discovers" something and it just stays that way for all time.
Pretty much everything gets refined... and just because something may or may not be true doesn't mean that we have to follow it if it goes agaisnt said consious.
Like if Darwinism somehow did show that one race was inferior to another it's not like that justifies treating one race inferior. At the end of the day justifications are excuses used by people who likely wanted to do what they did anyway.
Hitler is a "fun" example because he used multiple justifications for everything.... knowing the people would just go with which every one they personally liked best.
It's a fun trick our most succesful politicans today do as well.