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Grey21 on 11 September 2009

You have to move logic through many strange routes to claim software sales held it's own compaired to the hardware sales. I suspect this is partly due to PS3 owners buying a Slim but mostly because most who has a lot of money to spend already bought the consoles when they were full price or after early price drops. So while the PS3 just became affordable for a lot of people they won't immediatly be buying games for it, afterall there is enough free content on PSN to keep you busy until the holiday period. So I'm expecting a lot more software sales for the PS3 then from the 360.



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silicon on 11 September 2009
Grey21 said:

You have to move logic through many strange routes to claim software sales held it's own compaired to the hardware sales. I suspect this is partly due to PS3 owners buying a Slim but mostly because most who has a lot of money to spend already bought the consoles when they were full price or after early price drops. So while the PS3 just became affordable for a lot of people they won't immediatly be buying games for it, afterall there is enough free content on PSN to keep you busy until the holiday period. So I'm expecting a lot more software sales for the PS3 then from the 360.

Actually it was more of a hypothesis... and looking at the numbers Seece posted it may not have been a good one. It's not really strange logic routes...


This post was in response to posts claiming that software sales were low and all slims were sold to pre existing owners.



dharh on 11 September 2009
Buzzi said:
dharh said:
Buzzi said:
dharh said:
You have to consider that some of the hardware sold was to previous customers. About 400,000 units above the previous week. Lets say half of those were old owners, so 200,000 new PS3 owners on average bought 1 game (200,000) which happens to be the bump in software from the previous week.

Obviously this is a weak guestimate.

ioi said 30-40% only in Japan and has been attacked by a lot of people, you now say 50% worldwide. Prepare for a lot of criticism against you! 15-20% worldwide sound right to me.

Did you read the part where I said it was a weak guestimate? Its a baseline. You could read my guess as a worse case scenario, ioi's estimate as maybe a mid to best case scenario (despite what people hope, there _were_ people who traded in their fats for slims).

I agree with you (not on the numbers but as you said it's just an estimate, like mine), but there's a lot of people who think that no one old PS3 owner would buy the Slim because it has not BC, only 2 USBs and so on, while we know that the Slim model is a way in which sony sells HW to both new customers and old customers, not like the Arcade--> Pro--> Elite does (maybe that works just for a small percentage of customers).

Depends on which version of the fat.  Mine has no BC, has 2 USBs, and 80GB drive space. The new slim would up my drive space, cost me half as much money to use (electricity), and would actually fit my TV stand instead of having to sit vertical behind the TV. That said, I didn't buy the slim, but I do know of a few people who did trade in fats for slims. None of them of course were owners of the 60 GB, 4 USB, BC version of the fat.

On the subject of X360, I know of tons of people who have had to re-buy the X360 (poor early adopters).



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thx1139 on 11 September 2009
dharh said:
Buzzi said:
dharh said:
Buzzi said:
dharh said:
You have to consider that some of the hardware sold was to previous customers. About 400,000 units above the previous week. Lets say half of those were old owners, so 200,000 new PS3 owners on average bought 1 game (200,000) which happens to be the bump in software from the previous week.

Obviously this is a weak guestimate.

ioi said 30-40% only in Japan and has been attacked by a lot of people, you now say 50% worldwide. Prepare for a lot of criticism against you! 15-20% worldwide sound right to me.

Did you read the part where I said it was a weak guestimate? Its a baseline. You could read my guess as a worse case scenario, ioi's estimate as maybe a mid to best case scenario (despite what people hope, there _were_ people who traded in their fats for slims).

I agree with you (not on the numbers but as you said it's just an estimate, like mine), but there's a lot of people who think that no one old PS3 owner would buy the Slim because it has not BC, only 2 USBs and so on, while we know that the Slim model is a way in which sony sells HW to both new customers and old customers, not like the Arcade--> Pro--> Elite does (maybe that works just for a small percentage of customers).

Depends on which version of the fat.  Mine has no BC, has 2 USBs, and 80GB drive space. The new slim would up my drive space, cost me half as much money to use (electricity), and would actually fit my TV stand instead of having to sit vertical behind the TV. That said, I didn't buy the slim, but I do know of a few people who did trade in fats for slims. None of them of course were owners of the 60 GB, 4 USB, BC version of the fat.

On the subject of X360, I know of tons of people who have had to re-buy the X360 (poor early adopters).

You mean fools because they could have gotten fixed for free



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XanderZane on 11 September 2009

Software sales were low compared to the hardware sales. The software bump for the PS3 was actually less then the software bump Microsoft's XBox 360 received after their price cut. M$ only sold an additional 45K+ systems after the launch. Sony sold almost 450K more hardware.



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dharh on 11 September 2009
thx1139 said:
dharh said:
Buzzi said:
dharh said:
Buzzi said:
dharh said:
You have to consider that some of the hardware sold was to previous customers. About 400,000 units above the previous week. Lets say half of those were old owners, so 200,000 new PS3 owners on average bought 1 game (200,000) which happens to be the bump in software from the previous week.

Obviously this is a weak guestimate.

ioi said 30-40% only in Japan and has been attacked by a lot of people, you now say 50% worldwide. Prepare for a lot of criticism against you! 15-20% worldwide sound right to me.

Did you read the part where I said it was a weak guestimate? Its a baseline. You could read my guess as a worse case scenario, ioi's estimate as maybe a mid to best case scenario (despite what people hope, there _were_ people who traded in their fats for slims).

I agree with you (not on the numbers but as you said it's just an estimate, like mine), but there's a lot of people who think that no one old PS3 owner would buy the Slim because it has not BC, only 2 USBs and so on, while we know that the Slim model is a way in which sony sells HW to both new customers and old customers, not like the Arcade--> Pro--> Elite does (maybe that works just for a small percentage of customers).

Depends on which version of the fat.  Mine has no BC, has 2 USBs, and 80GB drive space. The new slim would up my drive space, cost me half as much money to use (electricity), and would actually fit my TV stand instead of having to sit vertical behind the TV. That said, I didn't buy the slim, but I do know of a few people who did trade in fats for slims. None of them of course were owners of the 60 GB, 4 USB, BC version of the fat.

On the subject of X360, I know of tons of people who have had to re-buy the X360 (poor early adopters).

You mean fools because they could have gotten fixed for free

I dunno. Some probably did it before the warranty extension. Some probably didn't wanna mess with it and sold off their broken X360. I know at least one guy voided his warranty so he was screwed anyway.



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Simulacrum on 11 September 2009

Yea.Didin't thought about that.



 

 

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Serious_frusting on 11 September 2009

Blame America ;)



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theprof00 on 11 September 2009

I 'm pretty sure it was others that had the biggest disparity..



psrock on 11 September 2009

We have plenty of threads about this thing already.
I just bought new slim so I can play two blu-ray movies at the same time, fuck softwares.



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