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hatmoza said:
The game seems a lot more interesting now! So basically a person is exposed everyday giving the towns people a chance to lynch a mafia member or the mafia to thin out the townfolk?

A person is exposed? Well, the cop can tell whether or not someone is pro town or anti town, but they can choose to keep that to themselves if they don't want to roleclaim.

But every day the town debates about who they think is mafia and choses one person to lynch. (Some special cases including a majority voting "no lynch" and if there is a tie, then it's possible that both people will be lynched).

The mafia will try to convince the town that they aren't mafia/someone else is mafia. They don't want to be found out. The thing is, though, that they can (and will; see the last game) vote against each other to make themselves look innocent. WoW did this last game, and I believe Soleron did it too.



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Yeah, I need to take a look at the last game.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Words Of Wisdom said:

Look my peeps, we're not lynching dtewi for no reason.

Let's trust Zexen and believe that if dtewi was something important that would mess up the game that he'd handle it that way.  Who knows, Zexen might have even given dtewi's role to someone who was a mere townie already (if he was anything special anyway).

 

Person Voting To Remove ( Removed | Killed  ) Identity

Day 1
Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6  
Khuutra
RCTjunkie
 

     
insomniac17 outlawauron          
Words Of Wisdom No Lynch          
Dgc1808 outlawauron            
c03n3nj0
outlawauron

     
dtewi
outlawauron  

     
Gnizmo No Lynch
 
       
outlawauron dtewi            
Falcon095            
That Guy
             
RCTjunkie              
hatmoza
No Lynch            
axumblade No Lynch
           
Soriku              

 

 

Well I will continue to go with  my axiom (at least early game) and state that in early game settings, No Two Mafia will vote against each other. It may be possible for a mafia to dogpile on a vote to appear more townie-like.

So between Outlaw and RCTJunkie, based on their voting, they BOTH cannot be mafia.

However, that's the only thing I can deduce. They can be one mafia and one townie, or two townies. All I really can conclude is that at least one of them is innocent.

I am FOS on outlaw for his fruedian slip post. Its not conclusive evidence on him, but I think he does warrant a suspicious eye.



That Guy said:

Well I will continue to go with  my axiom (at least early game) and state that in early game settings, No Two Mafia will vote against each other. It may be possible for a mafia to dogpile on a vote to appear more townie-like.

So between Outlaw and RCTJunkie, based on their voting, they BOTH cannot be mafia.

However, that's the only thing I can deduce. They can be one mafia and one townie, or two townies. All I really can conclude is that at least one of them is innocent.

I am FOS on outlaw for his fruedian slip post. Its not conclusive evidence on him, but I think he does warrant a suspicious eye.

Right now the only "conclusive" evidence we'll likely have is a sane cop telling us someone is innocent or guilty... which we won't have until Day 2 anyway.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to appeal to the doctor to protect me tonight.  If I'm right about outlaw, then I'll be right about the next mafia and the one after that.  I suspect the mafia have no shortage of sharp, pointy objects they'd like to poke me with so being protected would be swell.



The deadline is tonight at 22:00 Argentinian time (I think it's GMT-4). Anyway, it's 10 hours from now. If No Lynch has more votes than the top voted user (say, 5 No Lynch and 4 outlaw) then No Lynch wins. But No Lynch is not the same as non-voting. So, so far, outlaw would be the one being lynched if it finished now.

Therefore, I ask those who haven't voted to do so.




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Dtewi being banned is going to screw up a lot of things if he is anything but a townie. If he is mafia then they get a member that is free and clear of suspicion for a few days. If he is the doctor or cop then we are screwed out of 2 key roles and have no way of knowing it. This means after a day or two they could safely try to role claim doctor or cop (depending) and get away with it for a few days. Either way is bad for the townies in my eyes. The only danger here is that if he is a townie we are down one person which would be bad. If he is to be mod killed we should vote no lynch today, and if not then we lynch him.

Unvote: no lynch
Vote: dtewi or modkill dtewi



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

Gnizmo, you're becoming more suspicious by the post.  First you defend outlaw twice saying we don't have reasonable evidence and now you're trying to lynch dtewi who is most likely townsfolk at this point without even having reasonable evidence against him.  You're starting to contradict yourself.

 

Updating the chartz...

Person Voting To Remove ( Removed | Killed  ) Identity

Day 1
Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6  
Khuutra
RCTjunkie
 

     
insomniac17 outlawauron          
Words Of Wisdom No Lynch          
Dgc1808 outlawauron            
c03n3nj0
outlawauron

     
dtewi
outlawauron  

     
Gnizmo dtewi
 
       
outlawauron dtewi            
Falcon095            
That Guy
             
RCTjunkie              
hatmoza
dtewi            
axumblade No Lynch
           
Soriku              


Words Of Wisdom said:

Gnizmo, you're becoming more suspicious by the post.  First you defend outlaw twice saying we don't have reasonable evidence and now you're trying to lynch dtewi who is most likely townsfolk at this point without even having reasonable evidence against him.  You're starting to contradict yourself.

 

Updating the chartz...

Person Voting To Remove ( Removed | Killed  ) Identity

Day 1
Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6  
Khuutra
RCTjunkie
 

     
insomniac17 outlawauron          
Words Of Wisdom No Lynch          
Dgc1808 outlawauron            
c03n3nj0
outlawauron

     
dtewi
outlawauron  

     
Gnizmo dtewi
 
       
outlawauron dtewi            
Falcon095            
That Guy
             
RCTjunkie              
hatmoza
dtewi            
axumblade No Lynch
           
Soriku              

It is only suspicious if you don't read my reasoning, which is mildly suspicious in and of itself. I readily admit he is most likely a townie, and would probably hurt us if he were killed. However, if he has a special role it could be crippling to us to leave him alive. 2-3 rounds of mafia kills and town lynchings with no evidence against him would be a bad thing. Another potential problem (just occured to me) is that if we nail the rest of the mafia (I am assuming we have 3 again) then we could have him pinned down by default as there would be a night of no kills. This either switches all suspicion off the real mafia remaining, or confirms dtewi's role as mafia which also heavily influences the outcome. Dtewi's ban throws way too many unknown factors to have it be a good idea to remain.

The plan I firmly support is lynching dtewi, and investigating outlaw just to keep the game flowing anturally with as little strict metagaming as possible. Future games should probably have a provision for people who get banned as it disrupts it in a major way. One side got screwed cause dtewi decided he wanted to troll, and that bothers me.



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

Outlaw and Gnizmo seem pretty suspicious right about now...



4 ≈ One

I'm suspicious of insomniac and axumblade caring about dtewi's situation.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson