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nitekrawler1285 on 04 September 2009

NATAL will be big. For PCs. The interface seems idyllic for browsing media and such. This might lower the barrier to entry for people to control PCs and broaden that market. As for the 360.... They need interesting software. I don't think they have it in them. I've never seen Microsoft pioneer an expanded audience game.



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Kantor on 05 September 2009
damndl0ser said:
Come on, the alpha version of Natal is already leaps and bounds better than what the eye is.

I want to believe that. But I have asked you twice, and you've avoided the question: What can NATAL do that the PS Eye can't?



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Kantor on 05 September 2009
ramses01 said:
Kantor said:
I think people are overestimating Natal. Sure, people are excited about it now. But then it'll release, it'll be expensive, it'll be ignored. At the end of the day, no amount of advertising or celebrity endorsements will make consumers buy something they see no use for at a ridiculously high price (what was it finally, $150?)

The PS Motion won't do any better. Actually, it'll do much worse.


I am completely baffled by most posters vast underestimation of NATAL.  Of course non-linear and strategic thinking (hell thinking of any sort) is not a strong suit of most people. 

Of the posts that I have read, maybe 5-10% don't vastly underestimate it, and MAYBE 1% have a reasonable expectation of the impact of NATAL - assuming a. MS delivers on its promises and b. it is bundled in every SKU at today's prices and available as an add-on for under $100 with a game.

I am asking what can be made with Natal and how it is better than the PS Eye, and I get the responses "Natal can make all kinds of stuff if you have imagination!" and "Of course it's better than the PS Eye", which leads me to believe that you really have no idea.



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JaggedSac on 05 September 2009
Kantor said:
damndl0ser said:
Come on, the alpha version of Natal is already leaps and bounds better than what the eye is.

I want to believe that. But I have asked you twice, and you've avoided the question: What can NATAL do that the PS Eye can't?

Natal is basically the joining of 3 technologies together into one cohesive and developer friendly package.  Vocal recognition, facial recognition, and motion recognition(through the use of IR and the creation of a skeletal system).  All of which are handled via the onboard chip on Natal so that the actual 360 does not have to spend cpu time processing the outputs from the camera.  Sure these technologies are not new, and can be done on other devices(not many do the IR stuff though).  What is good for Natal, is the fact that all three are there for developers to use without them having to develop them themselves or pay for a third party solution.

As far as how this is different from the EyeToy.  The EyeToy has to base motion detection and distance calculations on changes in colors and edge detection on pixels from its camera.  This is much more inaccurate than actually having the distances per pixel such as Natal does with IR.



Kantor on 05 September 2009
JaggedSac said:
Kantor said:
damndl0ser said:
Come on, the alpha version of Natal is already leaps and bounds better than what the eye is.

I want to believe that. But I have asked you twice, and you've avoided the question: What can NATAL do that the PS Eye can't?

Natal is basically the joining of 3 technologies together into one cohesive and developer friendly package.  Vocal recognition, facial recognition, and motion recognition(through the use of IR and the creation of a skeletal system).  All of which are handled via the onboard chip on Natal so that the actual 360 does not have to spend cpu time processing the outputs from the camera.  Sure these technologies are not new, and can be done on other devices(not many do the IR stuff though).  What is good for Natal, is the fact that all three are there for developers to use without them having to develop them themselves or pay for a third party solution.

As far as how this is different from the EyeToy.  The EyeToy has to base motion detection and distance calculations on changes in colors and edge detection on pixels from its camera.  This is much more inaccurate than actually having the distances per pixel such as Natal does with IR.

Thank you. Natal, then, is superior technology-wise, but the number of applications is still not huge. A lot of games could use it, but not use it as the sole control method, unless you want an entire game consisting of talking to a little boy who lives next to a pond.



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gera4390 on 05 September 2009

I'd like to play the game for 360 with natal where u move the water with ur hands, I bet that I'll never get bored of that, better than real life!



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