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JEDE3 on 31 August 2009

I'd like to see someone from a indie party win the primaries.



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halogamer1989 on 31 August 2009

Jede indies have there own primaries and then only receive around .5-1% of the general election vote anyway. The closest we got to having a 3rd party pres was in 92 when Perot was beating Bush and Clinton but dropped out in the summer and then got back in.



highwaystar101 on 31 August 2009

The USA needs a serious third party candidate.



Craan on 31 August 2009
JEDE3 said:
Craan said:
Swing Voters are dumb they forget things. The economy will probably bounce back, guess who's gonna get the credit for that? in 2010 the democrats are going to have losses in the house and senate 2012 the democrats are going to have more losses in the house and senate, but Obama is almost certainly going to be reelected. Not to mention he probably won't have much competition.

im glad you know who he will run against in 2012 and im glad you know his term will be flawless from here on out. Whoever he runs against will bring up every mistake he makes. don't be so certain.

I never said his first term was going to be flawless from here on out, I am saying the economy will probably recover and regardless of why it recovered he as the president is most likely going to be taking the credit especially in the minds of swing voters who as I said are stupid.



outlawauron on 31 August 2009
halogamer1989 said:
Craan said:
Swing Voters are dumb they forget things. The economy will probably bounce back, guess who's gonna get the credit for that? in 2010 the democrats are going to have losses in the house and senate 2012 the democrats are going to have more losses in the house and senate, but Obama is almost certainly going to be reelected. Not to mention he probably won't have much competition.

Indies are against him by a 2:1 margin now plus in all likelyhood there will be a double dip recession.  + we don't know who will get the GOP nom.  Could be Romney or Gingrich and if the latter Obama would lose. Remember the black/youth vote pulled him over in toss-up states by like 1-2%.  VA will go red in 2012 I can tell you that much. 

VA and NJ will go GOP this Nov. which will help turn Obama's tide.  I predict 20+ seats in the House and around 10 in the Senate for the GOP in '10.

I think you're being pretty optimistic here.



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mrstickball on 31 August 2009
highwaystar101 said:
The USA needs a serious third party candidate.

Or a 3rd party-leaning candidate within either party.

Mike Gravel and Ron Paul were the best candidates for both parties, and neither did excellently. Ron Paul, however, did end up 2nd in 10 states (after most had dropped out of the race).



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mrstickball on 31 August 2009
outlawauron said:
halogamer1989 said:
Craan said:
Swing Voters are dumb they forget things. The economy will probably bounce back, guess who's gonna get the credit for that? in 2010 the democrats are going to have losses in the house and senate 2012 the democrats are going to have more losses in the house and senate, but Obama is almost certainly going to be reelected. Not to mention he probably won't have much competition.

Indies are against him by a 2:1 margin now plus in all likelyhood there will be a double dip recession.  + we don't know who will get the GOP nom.  Could be Romney or Gingrich and if the latter Obama would lose. Remember the black/youth vote pulled him over in toss-up states by like 1-2%.  VA will go red in 2012 I can tell you that much. 

VA and NJ will go GOP this Nov. which will help turn Obama's tide.  I predict 20+ seats in the House and around 10 in the Senate for the GOP in '10.

I think you're being pretty optimistic here.

If elections were held today, we'd have republican governors in VA and NJ. We'd also have a few more republican congressmen, as Harry Reid would even lose his spot as a congressman.



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dsister44 on 31 August 2009
mrstickball said:
highwaystar101 said:
The USA needs a serious third party candidate.

Or a 3rd party-leaning candidate within either party.

Mike Gravel and Ron Paul were the best candidates for both parties, and neither did excellently. Ron Paul, however, did end up 2nd in 10 states (after most had dropped out of the race).

But would that actually work? Say a candidate from one of the two parties ran as a 3rd party. Wouldn't that split the partie's vote and make for a easy win for the opposing party?

I believe that the Republicans did that at one point



themanwithnoname on 31 August 2009
dsister44 said:
mrstickball said:
highwaystar101 said:
The USA needs a serious third party candidate.

Or a 3rd party-leaning candidate within either party.

Mike Gravel and Ron Paul were the best candidates for both parties, and neither did excellently. Ron Paul, however, did end up 2nd in 10 states (after most had dropped out of the race).

But would that actually work? Say a candidate from one of the two parties ran as a 3rd party. Wouldn't that split the partie's vote and make for a easy win for the opposing party?

I believe that the Republicans did that at one point

Not necessarily. Look at Lieberman in Connecticut.



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outlawauron on 31 August 2009
mrstickball said:
outlawauron said:
halogamer1989 said:
Craan said:
Swing Voters are dumb they forget things. The economy will probably bounce back, guess who's gonna get the credit for that? in 2010 the democrats are going to have losses in the house and senate 2012 the democrats are going to have more losses in the house and senate, but Obama is almost certainly going to be reelected. Not to mention he probably won't have much competition.

Indies are against him by a 2:1 margin now plus in all likelyhood there will be a double dip recession.  + we don't know who will get the GOP nom.  Could be Romney or Gingrich and if the latter Obama would lose. Remember the black/youth vote pulled him over in toss-up states by like 1-2%.  VA will go red in 2012 I can tell you that much. 

VA and NJ will go GOP this Nov. which will help turn Obama's tide.  I predict 20+ seats in the House and around 10 in the Senate for the GOP in '10.

I think you're being pretty optimistic here.

If elections were held today, we'd have republican governors in VA and NJ. We'd also have a few more republican congressmen, as Harry Reid would even lose his spot as a congressman.

I was moreso talking about his Senate prediction.



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