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bazmeistergen on 30 August 2009
The Truth said:
@ Dtewi - You know as well as I do, you just don't want to admit it. Ive seen alot of gay people about on my travela, I rekon it's a fair indicator of the majority of gays. Pick out a part of my post that you think is un-true, or factually wrong.

@ Baz - Dude, I was in Glasgow over the weekend (shithole by the way) and I was walking along the street. Two lesbains were up ahead of me in the middle of the street in the city centre rubbing each others legs and snogging. One was dressed like a hooker and the other one was a big bulky girl (to replicate the male). I've never seen straight people do that, at least while they are sober. I then walked into a shopping centre and there was a feminine like male doing hairdressing with a really camp accent. I'm not saying gay people dont like meaningful relationships, I'm just saying they are less frequent among the community.

Also, Ireland is alot less 'gay' that most of the world because in comparison to the world few people immigrate here, and there is a far smaller population here than in other parts which means there are less homosexuals. Over here is also composed of around 95+% of the same race, compare that to New York for example.


So homosexuality is caused by mixing races?  You sure you mean that?

Ireland is more conservative than New York, more traditional and in the rural areas, far more judgemental than somewhere cosmopolitan than New York. I think, to be fair, the amount of gay people will not vary based on nationhood. Their likelihood to do it in public is subject to culture and tolerance.

And Dtewi picked out the parts that were factually weak. That is there were no facts, only statements of opinion backed up with no evidence other than what you are subjectively perceiving. If you cannot tolerate the public kissing of gay people then you are going to notice it. I have to say I don't tend to notice gay people snogging very often. I do, however, see and remember gay couples holding hands in the street and even kissing goodbye. This, however, is merely a series of observations and does not allow me to claim factual knowledge about the gay community.



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dsister44 on 30 August 2009
The Truth said:
@ Akvod, but you know that alot of gays act differently than straight people, more camp and feminine. Being gay is more than just a sexual orientation, you can tell many homosexuals a mile off my the way they dress, talk and act. Others (like Axumblade Im guessing) are basically impossible to tell which indicates that they are more like the main population of the earth.

Didn't you say that you didn't know many gay people? If so how can you say that? Or am I missing something?



Craan on 30 August 2009

Being effeminate doesn't actually make someone gay.



bazmeistergen on 30 August 2009
The Truth said:
@ Akvod, but you know that alot of gays act differently than straight people, more camp and feminine. Being gay is more than just a sexual orientation, you can tell many homosexuals a mile off my the way they dress, talk and act. Others (like Axumblade Im guessing) are basically impossible to tell which indicates that they are more like the main population of the earth.

True, you see a lot of gay people on TV that are camp and feminine. And will thusly notice them in the street if they are camp. You cannot say that even 20% of gays are camp based on such evidence. In fact, if the 10% estimate is true you could say that most gay people are not camp. As a very small percentage of people are camp and some of them are actually straight.



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The_vagabond7 on 30 August 2009

This topic is incredibly disturbing. Hopefully someday Artist and TheTruth will grow up and look back at their younger years and think "wow, I can't believe I actually thought and said those things." At times like this seeing people talk this way I just like to remind myself that people aren't static, they are constantly changing and their views evolving, and hopefully soon certain people in this topic won't sound like farmers from the 1920s talking about negros. That is to say, perpetuating stereotypes and saying "you know it's true". All things in time though.



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The Truth on 30 August 2009
bazmeistergen said:
The Truth said:
@ Dtewi - You know as well as I do, you just don't want to admit it. Ive seen alot of gay people about on my travela, I rekon it's a fair indicator of the majority of gays. Pick out a part of my post that you think is un-true, or factually wrong.

@ Baz - Dude, I was in Glasgow over the weekend (shithole by the way) and I was walking along the street. Two lesbains were up ahead of me in the middle of the street in the city centre rubbing each others legs and snogging. One was dressed like a hooker and the other one was a big bulky girl (to replicate the male). I've never seen straight people do that, at least while they are sober. I then walked into a shopping centre and there was a feminine like male doing hairdressing with a really camp accent. I'm not saying gay people dont like meaningful relationships, I'm just saying they are less frequent among the community.

Also, Ireland is alot less 'gay' that most of the world because in comparison to the world few people immigrate here, and there is a far smaller population here than in other parts which means there are less homosexuals. Over here is also composed of around 95+% of the same race, compare that to New York for example.


So homosexuality is caused by mixing races?  You sure you mean that?

Ireland is more conservative than New York, more traditional and in the rural areas, far more judgemental than somewhere cosmopolitan than New York. I think, to be fair, the amount of gay people will not vary based on nationhood. Their likelihood to do it in public is subject to culture and tolerance.

And Dtewi picked out the parts that were factually weak. That is there were no facts, only statements of opinion backed up with no evidence other than what you are subjectively perceiving. If you cannot tolerate the public kissing of gay people then you are going to notice it. I have to say I don't tend to notice gay people snogging very often. I do, however, see and remember gay couples holding hands in the street and even kissing goodbye. This, however, is merely a series of observations and does not allow me to claim factual knowledge about the gay community.

No, thats not what I meant, you know what I mean. And I can tolerate homosexual kissing in public, it's just they always seem to do it in their 'Im gay and Im proud fashion' when I am about, it's like they are making a public statement. I have no issues with seeing two blokes doing what you just described, and my factual evidence is what I have witnessed in my lifetime. That's factual evidence for me, I'm just telling you of it and you can make what you want of it.



The Truth on 30 August 2009
dsister44 said:
The Truth said:
@ Akvod, but you know that alot of gays act differently than straight people, more camp and feminine. Being gay is more than just a sexual orientation, you can tell many homosexuals a mile off my the way they dress, talk and act. Others (like Axumblade Im guessing) are basically impossible to tell which indicates that they are more like the main population of the earth.

Didn't you say that you didn't know many gay people? If so how can you say that? Or am I missing something?

I personally know only one gay person, in my travels I see alot.



dtewi on 30 August 2009
The Truth said:
bazmeistergen said:
The Truth said:
@ Dtewi - You know as well as I do, you just don't want to admit it. Ive seen alot of gay people about on my travela, I rekon it's a fair indicator of the majority of gays. Pick out a part of my post that you think is un-true, or factually wrong.

@ Baz - Dude, I was in Glasgow over the weekend (shithole by the way) and I was walking along the street. Two lesbains were up ahead of me in the middle of the street in the city centre rubbing each others legs and snogging. One was dressed like a hooker and the other one was a big bulky girl (to replicate the male). I've never seen straight people do that, at least while they are sober. I then walked into a shopping centre and there was a feminine like male doing hairdressing with a really camp accent. I'm not saying gay people dont like meaningful relationships, I'm just saying they are less frequent among the community.

Also, Ireland is alot less 'gay' that most of the world because in comparison to the world few people immigrate here, and there is a far smaller population here than in other parts which means there are less homosexuals. Over here is also composed of around 95+% of the same race, compare that to New York for example.


So homosexuality is caused by mixing races?  You sure you mean that?

Ireland is more conservative than New York, more traditional and in the rural areas, far more judgemental than somewhere cosmopolitan than New York. I think, to be fair, the amount of gay people will not vary based on nationhood. Their likelihood to do it in public is subject to culture and tolerance.

And Dtewi picked out the parts that were factually weak. That is there were no facts, only statements of opinion backed up with no evidence other than what you are subjectively perceiving. If you cannot tolerate the public kissing of gay people then you are going to notice it. I have to say I don't tend to notice gay people snogging very often. I do, however, see and remember gay couples holding hands in the street and even kissing goodbye. This, however, is merely a series of observations and does not allow me to claim factual knowledge about the gay community.

No, thats not what I meant, you know what I mean. And I can tolerate homosexual kissing in public, it's just they always seem to do it in their 'Im gay and Im proud fashion' when I am about, it's like they are making a public statement. I have no issues with seeing two blokes doing what you just described, and my factual evidence is what I have witnessed in my lifetime. That's factual evidence for me, I'm just telling you of it and you can make what you want of it.

That's factual evidence that of the gay people you have seen, they are exactly alike? That's piss-poor reasoning.



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theARTIST0017 on 30 August 2009
axumblade said:
theARTIST0017 said:

1. This argument will go on and on because it is an issue, like assisted suicide or abortion that people have deep seated feeling about.

Answer - Yes. I am also against both suicide and abortion.

He was pointing out that it's an issue that is highly controversial due to the seriousness that it impacts people. That's all

yes i know i know.

 

2. If two men or two women have a relationship, or get married, does it affect your ability to get married or have kids?

Answer - No but not really relevant. The opposition I have is against serious homosexual behavior. I'm just against it. Yeah it doesn't affect my ability to get married or have kids dut that doesn't mean I believe it's right.

It is relevant. You have no right to tell people who they should or shouldn't be allowed to marry. I've been dating the same guy for 3 years, and I cannot legally make a commitment yet some drunken whore and her boyfriend of 2 weeks can go get married? That's not justified at all.

Yes. The system is not perfect, but from what I know marriage is a religious tradition. It would taint it to have gay marriage.

3. No?

Answer - Umm no?

He answered that one for you. So you didn't have to.

. . .

 

4. Then why do you even care?

Answer - Good question. I think it's nasty I was just expressing my opinion I can do that oh and don't forget that there are gay christians out there.

Just because you think it's nasty doesn't mean you have to make a thread about it. This isn't your blog. This is a forum. Prepare for other peoples opinions if you are going to post in the forum.  I consider myself to be one of them. And why do you care? Do you feel my soul isn't good enough to get into heaven because I am gay? There's a lot worse things I can do then to choose not to propogate the world with my seed.

No no no nasty wasn't the whole point about the thread. Homosexuality in general is wrong imo. I'm prepared bring it on. Well I care because its around us. So i don't want to be ignorant about it. That caused me to have my own opinions. Umm I cannot judge your soul only GOD can. Knowing that being gay is a sin and not caring is a sure trip to hellfire (or so I've read).

5. For religious reasons?

Answer - Well if your gay and your a christian/catholic, yeah that would cause some problems. Are you religious?

That would cause some problems. Understandable. But then again, the bible is always open to interpretation and everyone in the world is a sinner/has sinned at some point in their existance.

Every one is a sinner. Agreed. But there are just some things that you are not supposed to die with. I'm no priest, but if you have accepted Jesus in your heart as your savior and that he died for you, and you have baptised because he has commanded it, sinning knowingfully and and not confessing it, is just bad enough.

6. Fine, keep them to yourself.

Answer - Why?

7. You choose your religion I didn't.

Answer - Ok.

8. I ask you to honestly assess your life and pinpoint the exact moment during adolescence when you "chose" to be heterosexual.

Answer - Birth.

9. I'll give you a hint, you can't do it, because you didn't choose to be heterosexual anymore than I chose to be gay.

Answer - Really, so I have no choice?

Apparently you didn't have a choice because you "chose" to be heterosexual at birth, despite not knowing what homosexual or heterosexual was whenever you were a baby. Hell, I didn't know I was gay until I was an early teenager. I knew I liked guys. I didn't know exactly what any of that meant until I started getting called "fag" because I had never had a girlfriend at the time didn't exactly help my choice. I tried dating girls but they just didn't work for me. 

I answered this one in a post above me. He kinda got me though. Whether we are born gay or not is not 100% know, so the point I was trying to get across is he saying we don't have a choice when it could be possible that we do.

 

10. you just went through puberty and realized you were attracted to the opposite sex, much like I went through puberty and found myself attracted to the same sex.

Answer - Umm so what about those who find attraction before puberty?

11. Our gay agenda is to have equal rights as heterosexuals.

Answer - There's nothing wrong with that, except for the marriage part because marriage is a religious tradition and that is an abomination to GOD.

The ironic thing about your statement is that marriage is a legal document. While religion can be tossed into law, that doesn't mean it has anything to really do with religious traditions. It's also strange that mariage has been around since the Greek and Roman times, yet you are throwing it in with a "Christian Tradition," which Christianity didn't really arise until AFTER the B.C. era ended.

I still say its a religious tradition.

 

12. There are still large portions of the world where you can be killed for being gay.

Answer - Unfortunately, man is sinful, but remember, in my religion being gay is a sin so I believe that both the killer and the victim have sinned.

So you are saying that a killer is no worse then a homosexual?

No. Of course I cannot judge that because GOD told us not to judge anyone, but in the end they have both sinned and turned against GOD.

 

13. You really think gay Iraqis choose to be gay, knowing they have a high chance of being tortured and killed?

Answer - Some people in this world would rather die than to give up something they love.

Yet you have no problem with the people dying for somebody they love....

I didn't say that was a good thing.

 

14. For all of you white, middle class, heterosexual males out there,

Answer - Oh he's not talking to me O.o

He was assuming because most of the people that make threads like this tend to be of that nature. Not all of course.

That was just me trying to be funny. Come on we can't always be serious here where's the comic relief.

15. If you think the act of gay sex is gross, well fine with me, fantasize about something else.

Answer - Eww gay sex is gross. More gross in men though (cause i'm a guy).

I'm sorry. what are you 10? "ew gay sex is gross." Then you go on to say...

Nop. 20 sorry. You're gonna have to look elsewhere . . . O.o

 

16. I certainly don't think of vaginas or breasts appealing.

Answer - Your missing out :P

Trust me. I have been there before and no offense to ladies in here, but it's not missing out on much.

Your missing out too lol :P

 

17. Hate me for it, I don't care.

Answer - I don't hate you I said that in the begginning.

If you don't hate people who are gay, you wouldn't act as though because they are gay they should be in the same class as murderers.

Dude come on.

 

18. But stay out of my way.

Answer - Whoooah!

He didn't threaten you. He just said. if you have an issue with his sexuality, then you better not come to you face to face.

Eh.

 

19. Because unlike you, we have a tangible benefit to fighting for equality, and we will get it.

Answer - Wait, are you still talking to the white peoples?

He's referring to heterosexuals in general. You don't think that gay people should be able to fight for their rights? I don't understand that. Black people are allowed to fight for something they believe in. Women are allowed to fight for something they believe in. I don't see your point in being rude about it. Just because you aren't white, doesn't mean you should criticize somebody for their beliefs. And yes, posting a long winded thread about why you don't like homosexual acts IS criticizing somebodys beliefs. He didn't say you're wrong for being a heterosexual. In fact, I highly doubt anybody has. So why do you feel the need to criticize homosexuals?

They do fight for their rights. Im just stating my opinion on the matter. I wasn't being rude. Read my first post. About the not being white, I was just fooling around I knew what he was saying. Ok, I am criticizing people's beliefs, well at least most of us are old and mature enough to talk about it in some manner. I'm not criticizing the people themselves. They are probably good people. I'm criticizing homosexuality in general.

 

 

 



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The Truth on 30 August 2009
The_vagabond7 said:
This topic is incredibly disturbing. Hopefully someday Artist and TheTruth will grow up and look back at their younger years and think "wow, I can't believe I actually thought and said those things." At times like this seeing people talk this way I just like to remind myself that people aren't static, they are constantly changing and their views evolving, and hopefully soon certain people in this topic won't sound like farmers from the 1920s talking about negros. That is to say, perpetuating stereotypes and saying "you know it's true". All things in time though.

This topic is not for the sensitive. I don't have a problem with gay people in general, I just don't like alot of certain gay activity which alot of homosexuals I have came across do. And having different experiences/a different view and growing up are two completely different things. My argument is also completely non-related to negros if only you would read my comments.