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I know at my university there is way more than gay people than 10%, but that estimate seems pretty reasonable.

They aren't going to get a closeted christian guy who beats his wife and kids up because he hates his non-gay life to admit to homosexual urges that he can never act upon.



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What I find disturbing about the whole pro-homo arguments, is this whole "appeal to nature" fallacy, that sounds something like this:
"The were born like this, it's not their decision"
"Even animals do it, it's natural"
"They are just following their urges"

But they conveniently ignore, that in a society, NO ONE can perfectly follow their natural urges, because society restricts us by common morals, even if they don't make much sense.

Obviously, when someone else is got hurt, it's bad, so it's understandable why you are not allowed to kill someone when you feel a natural urge to do so.
But what about cases when no one gets hurt?

A few weeks ago, there was an incest thread, and most people where freaked out simply for "Oh no! That's just disgusting, and WRONG!" without proper reasons.
Most of us understand that there is a taboo, against consensual incest between two adults, and don't do it, even opress urges.
The same goes for necrophilia, cannibalism, exhibitionism, and generally lots of weird fetishes that people are expected to keep for themselves only because they are disgusting.

I kinda miss the time when homosexuality was one of these.



@Alterego-X

So cannibalism, where you kill and eat another person, is the same as homosexuality?
And people keep exhibitionism to themselves? doesn't that defeat the purpose?

You believe that gay people should be treated like second-class citizens and I think homophobes should be chemically castrated to stop them from breeding ignorant spawn, so I guess it's a matter of opinion.

I guess you're horrified that people disagreed with the incest thread because It marginalizes you personally, but that is neither here nor there.



The thread title makes me sad. I'm just happy the majority of the people in my community aren't like OP.




theARTIST0017 said:

 

LET ME START OF BY SAYING THAT I DO NOT HATE ANY ONE PERSON AND THAT I RESPECT AND LOVE EVERYONE AS A PERSON

 

Because I know this can be a deep subject to talk about and trust me, I've been in plenty arguments in the past (arguments are a healthy part of conversation). But as everyone is entitled to their own opinion I do hope that no one takes it personal because it is not aimed at any one person and that nobody hates me. But as there was a thread dedicated to those who are out and proud, I too want too express my own opinions about hetero's because I believe straight is right.

I'm going to be truthful and this may hurt, but I do find the act of serious homosexuality to be disgusting. I can't help but to feel that way it just happens. Women, girl's, females, whatever you want to call em are on this Earth for a reason. So we can reproduce and strive and live on to the next generation. Those who are gay, well, you can't argue that one of your (real) parents is female and one is male. Now, I'm not saying people who are homo are not different if they want to be, but I believe a guy and a girl together should be the way to be. I'm not saying this because I'm religious, or because I hate anyone, or it doesn't even really have anything to do with marriage as for now, but that is my opinion.

Now, after saying that, I do believe in every person being treated the same whether they are black, white, gay, straight, or even bi. But accepting the idea of homosexuality is something that that I never see myself doing. Straight people do not celebrate being straight (I think) so I do not believe homosexualism should be celebrated. Sorry.

But, I do have one more question. What if every single human on the Earth was gay and opposed to heterosexualism. Would we see the end of humanity?

Edit: I have gay and lesbian friends btw.


As a hetrosexual, I'd just like to say you're a fucking idiot.

The fact you have gay and/or lesbian friend is irrelevant too because you still hate what they are doing. You're a homophobe, end of story.



Never argue with idiots
They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience

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Alterego-X said:
What I find disturbing about the whole pro-homo arguments, is this whole "appeal to nature" fallacy, that sounds something like this:
"The were born like this, it's not their decision"
"Even animals do it, it's natural"
"They are just following their urges"

But they conveniently ignore, that in a society, NO ONE can perfectly follow their natural urges, because society restricts us by common morals, even if they don't make much sense.

Obviously, when someone else is got hurt, it's bad, so it's understandable why you are not allowed to kill someone when you feel a natural urge to do so.
But what about cases when no one gets hurt?

A few weeks ago, there was an incest thread, and most people where freaked out simply for "Oh no! That's just disgusting, and WRONG!" without proper reasons.
Most of us understand that there is a taboo, against consensual incest between two adults, and don't do it, even opress urges.
The same goes for necrophilia, cannibalism, exhibitionism, and generally lots of weird fetishes that people are expected to keep for themselves only because they are disgusting.

I kinda miss the time when homosexuality was one of these.

O.o I thought homophobic/anti-homosexual proponents use the nature argument for their purpose, like the OP did saying that it biologically doesn't make sense, that it's the natural state for it to be a woman and man, we need to keep the population rolling, etc.

I don't think taboo is completely a natural thing and inheritated by birth. I'm sure that we humans will automatically feel nateuseus if we see things like murder (although I don't know if I'll consider that a taboo...), but not all humans feel sick when they see people eating, lets say goat testicles and rotten shark. Taboo is a result of socilization. In some countries, and ages, incest wasn't looked down upon as much, and even practiced by the nobility.

And I don't think we should opress urges due to socialization and taboo... we thought it was taboo for a black and white person to get married, to not be clothed from head to toe, etc. We shouldn't expect people to keep to themselves because they think it's digusting, but using rational thinking.

The problem with canibalism is that someone else has to die in the purpose >.< And although I'm not sure about this, I think our doctors consider somebody mentally disturbed/depressed/etc if they consent to suicide.



I think everyone knows my position on this...



halogamer1989 said:
I think everyone knows my position on this...

Lesbian sex is hawt?



Akvod said:
halogamer1989 said:
I think everyone knows my position on this...

Lesbian sex is hawt?

Look at my sigs.  I oppose it b/c the gay comm forces their ideals upon others, kids, etc. (i.e. My Daddy's Roommate, etc.) 



I don't. No matter the gender, I think people have the right to choose who they want to love. Man or woman.



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