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HappySqurriel said:
Lost tears of Kain said:

 

thats making assumptions, ive never had a better single player experience then halo, thats my opinion, just dont make broad assumptions

Not to be rude, but you're 17 and it is likely that you never played any of the first person shooters I mentioned (Halo came out when you were 11) ... If I started the average 11 year old on an unimpressive FPS (like Red-Steel) they would probably have fond memories and think it was the greatest thing ever.

I'm not saying you're wrong or that I'm right, but my dislike of Halo is not based on some sort of fanboy bias ...


your dislike of course is not the issue, i have no problem whatsoever with that, at all

i called you that, because you said even barbie would be fun with mult, you know thats a huge punch to halo, big time



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
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MontanaHatchet said:
Sqrl, if you had a point, you've made it. Now just leave. You're doing nothing but dragging on a pointless argument. The truth is, you managed to insult 3 different people in one post.

Also, you misspelled hypocrite, which makes you a hypocrite. Anyways, I don't even remember anymore the original purpose of this argument, but it's been completely derailed, so this should probably be locked.

I don't need your advice but thanks for offering it.

I do agree I am done with Alexie and I have reported him, but I completely disagree that I insulted anyone but the guy in the video.  

And mispelling hypocrit doesn't make you a hypocrit, it means you typed a word wrong, thats all~ 



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Sqrl why dont we settle this OVER HALO 3 (DUN DUN DUN)

you wanna play too montana? Blade?



Xbox Live Gamertag - Deathscythe X

AIM SN - Alexie Di Onie

 

Sqrl said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Sqrl, if you had a point, you've made it. Now just leave. You're doing nothing but dragging on a pointless argument. The truth is, you managed to insult 3 different people in one post.

Also, you misspelled hypocrite, which makes you a hypocrite. Anyways, I don't even remember anymore the original purpose of this argument, but it's been completely derailed, so this should probably be locked.

I don't need your advice but thanks for offering it.

I do agree I am done with Alexie and I have reported him, but I completely disagree that I insulted anyone but the guy in the video.

And mispelling hypocrit doesn't make you a hypocrit, it means you typed a word wrong, thats all~


 You've reported me? (trying and failing to contain laughter)



Xbox Live Gamertag - Deathscythe X

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Sqrl said:
@Lost,

No I get it you guys are acting like the victims here because you have a great game to play. But for some reason you feel the need to have everyone else think it too otherwise you can't enjoy it.

If it was just about a good game you should be able to go play and be happy that you are enjoying yourself, but when you post this guy and insult people you make it about something else. You guys aren't victims because someone doesn't like halo. Even though you try to act like it.

There are always going to be people who hate games, there are folks who post crap about SMG all the time, I roll my eyes, and move on. Sure I might occasionally indulge one in debate, but I wouldn't tell them to "shove their cock in their mouth". Or anything close to it. And thats my point. There is a way to make your argument and then there is this guy.

No i dont care if people dont like it or not, again its the HATERS that im sick of, theres a huge difference between dislikers and haters

Ya we can move on, dont defend the games we like, thats fine. But i feel better when i tell them to shove it and leave it alone, they usually INSULT the people who play it. Nintendo fans also defend themselves when haters state that SMG is for kids and stuff, and thats what im doing today with halo.

 



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
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LOL for the LAST TIME DEATH ive said YES

lol =P



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
Sqrl said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Sqrl, if you had a point, you've made it. Now just leave. You're doing nothing but dragging on a pointless argument. The truth is, you managed to insult 3 different people in one post.

Also, you misspelled hypocrite, which makes you a hypocrite. Anyways, I don't even remember anymore the original purpose of this argument, but it's been completely derailed, so this should probably be locked.

I don't need your advice but thanks for offering it.

I do agree I am done with Alexie and I have reported him, but I completely disagree that I insulted anyone but the guy in the video.  

And mispelling hypocrit doesn't make you a hypocrit, it means you typed a word wrong, thats all~ 


Yea calling us impopeus  jerks or whatever isnt insulting? Then calling us a fanboy because we defended halo?

 

BY god, then everyone who defends the wii and its games, and all the people who defend ps3 and its games are fanboys and jerks it seems



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

hehehe hes gonna report me too.



Xbox Live Gamertag - Deathscythe X

AIM SN - Alexie Di Onie

 

ItsaMii said:
rocketpig said:
ItsaMii said:
That is so annoying. Instead of arguments, the guy just says it is revolutionary, amazing, best console FPS ever, yadda, yadda, yadda. Looks like extremist religious man or a Final Fantasy VII fan. Fun is a subjective aspect, but Halo is not revolutionary, deep or epic. How a game where 30% of the stages are just initial level backwards be epic. Overcomplicated story is not the same as deep. Halo weapon`s are not even new to make it revolutionary (also they do not work properly). For me it was a 6 kind of game.

For fuck`s sake. I am not into the FPS genre and I know at least 10 games better than Halo on consoles and PC.

So dear Halo fans, have fun if your game. Just do not try to push that crap as the best game ever on gamers that have above average tastes.

This is exactly the shit that pisses me off. You do realize that by stating your opinion as fact, you're no different than the frothing Halo fanboys in this thread?

In your opinion, Halo isn't that great. I've played hundreds of shooters and I think it is. Does that somehow make me have "below average" tastes?


 Do you realize you are another Halo fanboy? Why do not you attack the faulty logic of Halo fans? My opinion is that Halo sucks and it is not fun. Read my post again, I said fun is relative. If Halo is fun or not it is a matter of tastes and that is a opinion. What I said is that it is not epic, deep or revolutionary. These adjectives are not matters of opinion (maybe epic in literal meaning, but not in comparison to other FPS games). You need proof or arguments for these. If you think that what I said is not enough I can give you a more detailed post why Halo is not epic, revolutionary and have a deep storyline.

From Wikipedia: 

A "fact" can be defined as something which is the case, that is, the state of affairs reported by a true proposition.

If you think what I said is not a fact you may use a counter argument to show me what is wrong with my sentence. Telling me that it is a opinion is just avoiding the discussion. Just show me what is wrong and what makes my statement a opinion.


Yeah, I'm a Halo fanboy. That's why I have been so staunchly defending the game in this thread.

...

Oh wait, I haven't been defending it. I said I liked the game and nothing more.

Here's the counter to your argument:

Your statement: "Fun is a subjective aspect, but Halo is not revolutionary, deep or epic."

From Wiki: A "fact" can be defined as something which is the case, that is, the state of affairs reported by a true proposition.

Now I'm no English major, but the first statement is a clear representation of the latter. In that sentence, you stated that "Halo is not revolutionary, deep or epic."

I don't know how much more clear that can be. You may have intended a different meaning (hence the "Fun is a subjective aspect") but by reading that sentence, you were stating that as fact, not opinion.

/takes off schoolmarm hat

Anyway, that wasn't what pissed me off. It was the last comment about gamers with good taste, as if anyone with good taste is somehow above the lowly game called Halo.

And it can be argued that Halo is "epic" and "revolutionary". I wouldn't go so far as "deep", but again, depth can be what you take from an experience, not necessarily what the experience is feeding you. I'm not going to bother with the details of why I feel that way about Halo because that isn't my point.

Those are your opinions, just f***ing admit it. There are no such things as facts when dealing with art, emotion, feeling, and experience. Just a whole lot of opinions you may or may not agree with.




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Lost tears of Kain said:

No i dont care if people dont like it or not, again its the HATERS that im sick of, theres a huge difference between dislikers and haters

Ya we can move on, dont defend the games we like, thats fine. But i feel better when i tell them to shove it and leave it alone, they usually INSULT the people who play it. Nintendo fans also defend themselves when haters state that SMG is for kids and stuff, and thats what im doing today with halo.

 


Like I said, I don't have a problem with defending against folks who really just want to bash the game.  But honestly I think there are quite a few flaws in the game and I have been called a Halo hater more times than I can count.  The fact that I enjoy the game and still find flaws with it and yet I am called a hater gets old just as fast as I'm sure you sitting there and having to listen to real haters droning on does.

I will be honest in saying that aside from the ending I didn't have a huge problem with the video.  It was a bit whiny for my tastes, but it wasn't worth comment until the end.  Because at that point he is just insulting anyone who finds fault in the game and that kind of devotion is just stupid.

I honestly think we have common ground on this issue.



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