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outlawauron on 24 August 2009

I'm not saying I loved Warhawk, but I was saying that I think you have a stronger case with Warhawk due to the fact that people still actively play it today.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 24 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
outlawauron said:
 

Although, no one is flaming the developers and if what you said is true, then too few know what to play as only 200k copies of Folklore were sold. I would say you'd have a stronger case for Warhawk moreso than Folklore though. Warhawk still has a fanbase that plays still.

Warhawk, I have no comment, and as CGI always like to remind me, my opinion is mine alone....but my opinion extends far beyond my gaming tastes, and reaches all the way over to your opinion, and judges it harshly.

@OP, it's not a loss unless the games aren't on PS3, and the whole "game woulda looked better were it PS3 exclusive" argument is imo, horseshit, and always has been. 2 games look better than Gears 2 on the PS3, and Heavenly Sword ain't one of em.

I gotta tell you, I really don't care what you think of my opinion, and I care not for your condescending aura either. At the end of the day, I said these weren't some of Sony's more known devs, which they aren't. Never once did I flame them, as you so desperately seem to think. As far as what games look better on PS3, again who gives a damn? I never even brought such a topic up in the first place.

Like I said before, get off my case!

You're just bound and determined to make me the villian aren't you?

Why do you hate me so much? Did you really think I was flaming you just then? Are you really that defensive towards my posts, or are you just looking for a reason to scold and lambast me?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI on 25 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
outlawauron said:
 

Although, no one is flaming the developers and if what you said is true, then too few know what to play as only 200k copies of Folklore were sold. I would say you'd have a stronger case for Warhawk moreso than Folklore though. Warhawk still has a fanbase that plays still.

Warhawk, I have no comment, and as CGI always like to remind me, my opinion is mine alone....but my opinion extends far beyond my gaming tastes, and reaches all the way over to your opinion, and judges it harshly.

@OP, it's not a loss unless the games aren't on PS3, and the whole "game woulda looked better were it PS3 exclusive" argument is imo, horseshit, and always has been. 2 games look better than Gears 2 on the PS3, and Heavenly Sword ain't one of em.

I gotta tell you, I really don't care what you think of my opinion, and I care not for your condescending aura either. At the end of the day, I said these weren't some of Sony's more known devs, which they aren't. Never once did I flame them, as you so desperately seem to think. As far as what games look better on PS3, again who gives a damn? I never even brought such a topic up in the first place.

Like I said before, get off my case!

You're just bound and determined to make me the villian aren't you?

Why do you hate me so much? Did you really think I was flaming you just then? Are you really that defensive towards my posts, or are you just looking for a reason to scold and lambast me?

You often think somebody's out to get you, or too often make yourself the center of attention. My point to you is simple, don't make bold ass assumptions when you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't flame the teams mentioned in my OP, and that's all there is to it.

It's a shame Zen, I once had a lot of respect for you. I find it heavily dwendling as of late because of foolishness like this.

You know what it seems like to me, CGI? It seems like everytime I say something that doesn't flow with the Sony tagline, I get flamed. By you, more often than not.

In this case, I was actually throwing you a nod. I mentioned you when you weren't involved in the conversation. It was meant as a compliment. I was throwing you a "pop."

Yet, it wasn't taken that way. Everytime your attention is turned my way, you become defensive, and spin me in a negative light.

We don't agree often, lets not kid ourselves. You're a huge Sony fan, and I'm not. We both would love to pretend we're unbiased, but we're not.

That said, when you over-react to absolutely nothing, like in this case, it pisses me right off. Why? What exactly did I say that was "foolish?"

You know what, I'm the biggest Sony opponent on this forum, and even if that is opinion, I'm almost unarguably the most effective.

That said, since the price-cut, I've been trying to mend fences. I'm being much nicer to the console, and the company in general, because I had a very valid reason to be angry at them. Now, that reason doesn't exist. The memory does, but the reason doesn't.

All I've been met with is skepticism and anger.

Sure, I'm self-centered, but it seems like you are pretty centered on me as well.

You want me off your back? Sure. Whatever bro. Either way, it's never wise to assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I think you know me better than that.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI on 25 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
outlawauron said:
 

Although, no one is flaming the developers and if what you said is true, then too few know what to play as only 200k copies of Folklore were sold. I would say you'd have a stronger case for Warhawk moreso than Folklore though. Warhawk still has a fanbase that plays still.

Warhawk, I have no comment, and as CGI always like to remind me, my opinion is mine alone....but my opinion extends far beyond my gaming tastes, and reaches all the way over to your opinion, and judges it harshly.

@OP, it's not a loss unless the games aren't on PS3, and the whole "game woulda looked better were it PS3 exclusive" argument is imo, horseshit, and always has been. 2 games look better than Gears 2 on the PS3, and Heavenly Sword ain't one of em.

I gotta tell you, I really don't care what you think of my opinion, and I care not for your condescending aura either. At the end of the day, I said these weren't some of Sony's more known devs, which they aren't. Never once did I flame them, as you so desperately seem to think. As far as what games look better on PS3, again who gives a damn? I never even brought such a topic up in the first place.

Like I said before, get off my case!

You're just bound and determined to make me the villian aren't you?

Why do you hate me so much? Did you really think I was flaming you just then? Are you really that defensive towards my posts, or are you just looking for a reason to scold and lambast me?

You often think somebody's out to get you, or too often make yourself the center of attention. My point to you is simple, don't make bold ass assumptions when you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't flame the teams mentioned in my OP, and that's all there is to it.

It's a shame Zen, I once had a lot of respect for you. I find it heavily dwendling as of late because of foolishness like this.

You know what it seems like to me, CGI? It seems like everytime I say something that doesn't flow with the Sony tagline, I get flamed. By you, more often than not.

In this case, I was actually throwing you a nod. I mentioned you when you weren't involved in the conversation. It was meant as a compliment. I was throwing you a "pop."

Yet, it wasn't taken that way. Everytime your attention is turned my way, you become defensive, and spin me in a negative light.

We don't agree often, lets not kid ourselves. You're a huge Sony fan, and I'm not. We both would love to pretend we're unbiased, but we're not.

That said, when you over-react to absolutely nothing, like in this case, it pisses me right off. Why? What exactly did I say that was "foolish?"

You know what, I'm the biggest Sony opponent on this forum, and even if that is opinion, I'm almost unarguably the most effective.

That said, since the price-cut, I've been trying to mend fences. I'm being much nicer to the console, and the company in general, because I had a very valid reason to be angry at them. Now, that reason doesn't exist. The memory does, but the reason doesn't.

All I've been met with is skepticism and anger.

Sure, I'm self-centered, but it seems like you are pretty centered on me as well.

You want me off your back? Sure. Whatever bro. Either way, it's never wise to assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I think you know me better than that.

You said I flamed these studios, which was incorrect. You're not always right ya know, and I know, neither am I. However, don't accuse someone of something, especially when it wasn't even their intent in the first place, and expect people to be happy about it.

As for our bias, there's a difference between you and I Zen. How often do I bash a company/system just because I can? Now, how often do you do it? And how often do you come off as condescending...? Again, I hate getting to this point but I'm just letting you know why people get like this towards you, I'm not the only one.

As for me, sure, I favor sony, I've never denied that. But a preference is one thing, baseless bashing of a company/system aren't even in my league, and by now that should be evident.

Nevertheless, this isn't why I made this thread, and it's a shame it's come to this. I still respect you for the most part as a poster. I just think you'd be better off eliminating some of the comments in your posting, you waste away all of the intelligence I know you have...

Well, it certain seems as if I accused you of flaming the company, but I was speaking generally. That said, I think that "In fact, I REALLY don't see how these were two of Sony's better non-owned developers." is a dig, but not a flame.  You should have said "most important" or "highest selling" not "better."

Anyway, I never meant to imply you were flaming them.

That said, I think you see me in a different, worse, light than most posters. I never flame a console without an reason behind it, and the stuff I say is generally based in solid reasoning. I'm not a troll. I let all of my opinions about Sony be known up front. I never assult the games unless I mean it, and what really gets my goat is the flaming of developers I love, due to PS3 fanatacism.

I mean, shit man, I LOVED Folklore. Go back to my posting history to the time it came out. That shit is personal. I don't dig when people try to tell me that it sucks compared to Resistance 2, when I know that it's based on ignorance and bias, stemming from some political decision by Sony, Namco, or the developers themselves, and not their games.

If it wasn't said, it would be if this kept up(oh, it's headed that way). Sometimes I get upon a soapbox, and speak in general terms. I'm good at it. If it offends you, so be it, but it's not aimed at you.

That said, I really can't back down off of what I've stated here(assuming you now realize that I never purposefully accused you of anything). If I backed down off of most of this stuff, that I know you don't want to hear, just to appease my audience, then I sure as hell wouldn't be worth respecting then.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Lord Flashheart on 26 August 2009

So the quote wars is over?

Thank god



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