@ numonex

Yes, I expect the PS3 slim to sell ~15 million units on average for the long term and I expect the PS3 to complete Sony's 10 year lifecycle plans.

For the PS3 slim's first year on the market, it's well on track to do 15 million. Are you going to continue being a pest for many years to come until we reach the PS3's 10th year?

People asked me for a prediction, I gave it to them. Don't like what you read, you probably would have preferred me to state Sony's target for their fiscal year of 13 million was impossible/insane. I didn't, I said likely the figures will be close and that made me more correct than if I would acted as a sheep, if I wouldn't have following my own instincts.

Hey Mike, you never answered my question. Why is MS so bad, compared to other large corporations?

This is starting to sound like a bullying thread where two or three hilariously insecure guys are desperately trying to prove each other wrong. Its actually so funny reading all of your comments how petty some of ye are.

MikeB for president.

@ kowenicki

Of course people talked about a potential price cut, it was also in the VGChartz analysis speculation in response to the announcement. But IMO a real daring prediction is when you foresee something without there being such clear hints. Just try to be rational and realistic, try to estimate probabilities.

Attitude amongst some here on VGChartz when I made that prediction:

Troll: "Oh hi Mike, how is you 140 million LTD for PS3 sales going?"

MikeB: "Still on track with my anticipations of doing ~10 million sales per year, hopefully a cheaper slimline product gets released this year so it can do my anticipated ~15 million on average sales per year. Let's wait for 2016 before coming to conclusions, ok?

BTW, I said I expected going beyond 100 million should be no problem assuming Sony's 10 year lifecycle. If somebody would have said in the first half of 1997 the Playstation 1 would sell over 100 million, maybe people would have frowned as well (was only about 14 million shipped taking equal timeframes). So let's not get pre-emptively childish and off topic, ok?"

Troll: "So even though its currently tracking well below what it was last year you still won't concede."

BTW, the PS3 sold more than 10 million for Sony's fiscal year as was later reported. The PS3 slim was launched on the 1st of September 2009. So again, let's wait for Sony's 2016 FY results before coming to conclusions and take cheapshots, ok?

The funny thing is the people who try to make fun of me, were often also the ones who asked me to provide a prediction...

MikeB: You must be an attempt at being Michael Pachter.

You claim 15 million in a year for PS3 based on what your opinion? 100 million sales for the PS3 or is it 140 million sales for the PS3? Make up your mind. PS3 is now in its 4th year and it will be lucky to match its peak 2009 sales tally of 13 million in 2010. How can it sell 15 million this year?

Please show some theory behind your claims. You have provided a BS claim with no substance to back it up. No wonder people in here are questioning, you have been caught out again.

maverick40 said: This is starting to sound like a bullying thread where two or three hilariously insecure guys are desperately trying to prove each other wrong. Its actually so funny reading all of your comments how petty some of ye are.

Well report people if thats the case, your post is just flaming otherwise imo.

@ numonex

I was talking about the PS3 slim, so 1st of September 2009 - 1st of September 2010, makes one full year of PS3 slim availability. I expect Sony's fiscal year ending March 2011 to beat their currently still be reported fiscal year results.

MikeB said: @ kowenicki Selective memory again. What MOST people actually said was that the 13m shipment figure was impossible UNLESS there was a price cut/slim about to hit. This was true... and therefore most observers here were correct. If the slim/price cut hadn't happened then they wouldn't have got anywhere near the 13m. Of course people talked about a potential price cut, it was also in the VGChartz analysis speculation in response to the announcement. But IMO a real daring prediction is when you foresee something without there being such clear hints. Just try to be rational and realistic, try to estimate probabilities. Attitude amongst some here on VGChartz when I made that prediction: Troll: "Oh hi Mike, how is you 140 million LTD for PS3 sales going?" MikeB: "Still on track with my anticipations of doing ~10 million sales per year, hopefully a cheaper slimline product gets released this year so it can do my anticipated ~15 million on average sales per year. Let's wait for 2016 before coming to conclusions, ok? BTW, I said I expected going beyond 100 million should be no problem assuming Sony's 10 year lifecycle. If somebody would have said in the first half of 1997 the Playstation 1 would sell over 100 million, maybe people would have frowned as well (was only about 14 million shipped taking equal timeframes). So let's not get pre-emptively childish and off topic, ok?" Troll: "So even though its currently tracking well below what it was last year you still won't concede." BTW, the PS3 sold more than 10 million for Sony's fiscal year as was later reported. The PS3 slim was launched on the 1st of September 2009. So again, let's wait for Sony's 2016 FY results before coming to conclusions and take cheapshots, ok? The funny thing is the people who try to make fun of me, were often also the ones who asked me to provide a prediction...

We expected  a more realistic sales prediction. You provided us with a  Crazzyman sales prediction that is virtually impossible to obtain. Do you know by setting very high sales expection you are setting yourself up for a huge downfall? Your sales predictions crash and burn and we just rub your nose in it and remind you that you were wrong. You failed to provide a reasonable explanation on how the PS3 will achieve the 15 million sales average or the 140 million sales targets. You just put up high sales numbers. You expect all of us to accept your sales predictions and remain silent like a mouse. Those sales predictions you seriously believe in them. PS3 10 year life cycle  based on what exactly? You take everything Sony says as gospel. It is just Sony PR marketing spin talk.

BTW: Who are you accusing of being a troll? The critics shoot you down and pull you up on your ridiculous sales prediction. You accuse them of being trolls. I do not accept these sales!!!

 

MikeB said: @ numonex How can it sell 15 million this year? I was talking about the PS3 slim, so 1st of September 2009 - 1st of September 2010, makes one full year of PS3 slim availability. I expect Sony's fiscal year ending March 2011 to beat their currently still be reported fiscal year results.

I clearly said this year. I do not not care about the last 4 months of last year and only the  first 8 months of this year due to PS3 Slim launch. Will the PS3 sell 15 million in 2010?

PS3 sold only 13 million in 2009 in its peak sales year.  Sales trends indicate it will slow down as soon as the PS3 Slim full year is over. Last 4 months of this year are  more than likely going  to sell less than last  4 months of last year for PS3. PS3 Slim price is likely to remain unchanged until next year.