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MikeB said:
The Truth said:
Game_4_Anything said:
kowenicki said:
liabilities...

hmmm?

you do know that sony has 513 billion in yen out in the market via corporate bonds... ? all has to be repaid someday.

513b yen = $5.4b*

Sony's total assets = $230.5b

Sony's total equity (assets - liabilities) = $50b

 

Sony are not about to go bankrupt by any stretch of the imagination. Pointing out that Microsoft are bigger is a bit redundant. I don't think anyone would ever dispute that. They do have less assets and lower equity, though.

 

* straight currency conversion at current rates.

There's no doubt that MikeB's Asset talk is wrong (although in very basic terms it's true), however it's no fact that MS are the bigger company.

The size of a company can be measured in various ways, Market Cap being one of the main ones. Assets, employee count, product count, revenue and worldwide influence can also decide on how big a company is, so it's quite opinionated. Microsoft are in a better financial state I think would be a better way of putting it.

Correct, Sony is bigger when talking about assets, equity and workforce. Market Cap is a very subjective measurement greatly affected by hype and momentum. For example the tiny Be Inc was once a billion dollar company based on Market Cap, basically because their product was technically superior to Windows. But Microsoft with its monopoly might, pressured companies not to do business with them and they bankrupted quickly.

The bulk of Micorosoft's Market Cap value is based on this monopoly. If the market decides to opt for alternatives en masse, the Market Cap value will take a plunge. It could change dramatically within a very short timespan. Sadly currently most good alternatives have meanwhile been destroyed or minimalized, but who knowns maybe Google, Apple (if they get support from hardware manufacturers and allow cloning) or some other big company can change this for the future. IMO all that's really needed is viable competition for desktop PCs, also cloud computing could help bring down the monopoly.

Yes, once, or if MS lose their monopoly, it's all downhill for them. Their cap will fall badly, as will their recognition. I don't see this happening for a long long time though.

I think MS have been trying to prepare for any damage to their OS business by going through different media roots, for example into gaming, IM, MP3/4 players. They've basically been doing this with a 'copy and try to improve' method for quite a while now, and on the whole they haven't been very successful financially. This tells me that without their OS business, MS can't cut it in other electronic areas.



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I'm rather amused by the number of people defending MikeB. Very telling.



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appolose said:
I'm rather amused by the number of people defending MikeB. Very telling.

By saying that he got some predictions right, which he did?

By putting factual information into a discussion?



The Truth said:
appolose said:
I'm rather amused by the number of people defending MikeB. Very telling.

By saying that he got some predictions right, which he did?

By putting factual information into a discussion?


By that he posted the safest possible predictions, then opted not to give us a link to the threads in which he made them.  If you've ever read one of his whole threads (he has many), you'll see he's quite out there (and the older members should know this).  Even compared to John Lucas, he's still very misguided.



Okami

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appolose said:
The Truth said:
appolose said:
I'm rather amused by the number of people defending MikeB. Very telling.

By saying that he got some predictions right, which he did?

By putting factual information into a discussion?


By that he posted the safest possible predictions, then opted not to give us a link to the threads in which he made them.  If you've ever read one of his whole threads (he has many), you'll see he's quite out there (and the older members should know this).  Even compared to John Lucas, he's still very misguided.

Uhm... no. Just no, for all his fans and bravado in here, he has the most insane and inaccurate predictions in here. He's worse than Crazzyman and that says a lot.



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@ appolose

I think you are over-reacting. Nice to see you think my predictions were safe, of course meaning they were far from "insane", "trollish" or whatever.

I will be adding links to the original post (I already linked to one thread as requested in this thread), hope that calms you down a little and IMO a thank you wouldn't be out of place for honoring your request?



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MikeB said:
@ appolose

I think you are over-reacting. Nice to see you think my predictions were safe, of course meaning they were far from "insane", "trollish" or whatever.

I will be adding links to the original post (I already linked to one thread as requested in this thread), hope that calms you down a little and IMO a thank you wouldn't be out of place for honoring your request?


I mean the predictions you posted here were safe.  The one like NJ5 posted from you are decidely not.  Nor did I say you were insane or trollish.  I don't know why you think I need calming down, and, finally, I would say thanks, but I don't want to speak for all the others that requested it before me.



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Mummelmann said:
appolose said:
The Truth said:
appolose said:
I'm rather amused by the number of people defending MikeB. Very telling.

By saying that he got some predictions right, which he did?

By putting factual information into a discussion?


By that he posted the safest possible predictions, then opted not to give us a link to the threads in which he made them.  If you've ever read one of his whole threads (he has many), you'll see he's quite out there (and the older members should know this).  Even compared to John Lucas, he's still very misguided.

Uhm... no. Just no, for all his fans and bravado in here, he has the most insane and inaccurate predictions in here. He's worse than Crazzyman and that says a lot.


Well, I'll just have to say here that I disagree with you, so as not to derail the thread.



Okami

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The Truth said:
appolose said:
I'm rather amused by the number of people defending MikeB. Very telling.

By saying that he got some predictions right, which he did?

By putting factual information into a discussion, which he did not?

Fixed



Judging a company by assets is wrong for a number of reasons.

1) Assets can carry debt.

2) Assets can carry expenses such as taxes, maintenance, insurance, employees, etc.

3) Assets can depreciate over time, especially those involving technology and equipment.

4) Assets can be very non-liquid, that is they can be difficult if not sometimes impossible to sell.

If assets truly had good business value, car companies would never fail. Sometimes assets such as factories and equipment lose money and can never be made profitable, despite having huge asset values.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.