I consider the duplicating of rare candies as pure cheating!

I mean, do you think blizzar would tolerate to use cheat on the battle net to get to
level 99 in Diablo 2 because doing baal run or whatever is annoying. I Know it is kind of
boring to get to level 100 in pokemon but hey, that what the game is about. Anyway it is not that long when you got traded pokemon and that you use legit rare candies after level 94.

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but for battles on the internet the game automatically put your pokemon to level 50 or 100 I think. So why would you need to use those duplicated rare candies.

The level 50 to 100 applies to WFC, not local wifi. And in the cup modes there are too many restrictions so you we're forced to use No Restrictions which takes pokemon at their current level.

Traded pokemon aren't always the best for battling, too many factors are needed which make the Diablo reference moot. Pokemon have natures, IVs, EVs, etc that all determine its strength. When you create different teams, you have that many more to get to level 100, hours and hours of work for the handful of battles you do. All rare candies do, in my opinion, are level the playing field for local, no restriction play. I hardly see it as cheating.

If you want to use rare candies, then go find them in the game. Hacking them into your game file is cheating, and there's really no way around that.

Just because a game is naturally time consuming, that doesn't mean that speeding up the process with a cheating device becomes magically legitimate.

Well Rendo, you already know the nature of a pokemon when he is low level and evs are a question of choice. Trying to get a pokemon with perfect ivs is a bit abbused I think, especially for local
battle.

Also trying to get a pokemon with the perfect nature and perfect ivs is like winning at the lottery.

I don t really know a lot about the local battle though, and I was wondering what were the pokemon restrictions. Are they only for uber?


I personnaly think you can kick some ass even if the nature or Iv are not perfect. But then again, I don t have a lot of experience in online battle. I wish pokemon would be bases a bit more on having a better startegy than the opponent instead of the importance of maxing out your pokemon.

I don't cheat, what's the point of playing if you'll just cheat? It'd be like playing Gran Turismo, hacking for the fastest car in the game and winning every event first time...pointless.

I have 63 level 100 legit pokemon, all trained up. The only 'cheat' is that I trade them from one game to another so that they get boosted experience points - but that's a legitimate tactic.

Wow man you really have 63 level 100!!!    I though I was crazy with 14 on on my gold version.

I also to that. Trade from one game to an other.

The cup restrictions involve legendaries, levels, if pokemon evolve, their height and size, items, duplicate pokemon, etc.

I agree that using other methods to obtain a bunch of rare candies IS cheating, but I don't define it AS cheating. A quick estimate I make tells me it'll take at LEAST 15-20 clearings of the elite four, with trade bonus and lucky egg/exp share to get to level 100, maybe more maybe less depending on what pokemon. If a clear takes 5-10 minutes, you're looking at 2-4 hours roughly for EACH pokemon. If I intend to legitimately get my pokemon to 100, after breedings, EVs, movesets etc, I fail to see why I should spend that ADDED time on top of doing all that to get it to 100. I will anyways, so to save myself from repetition, I use a method to level them that's in the game, but use "unfavourable" methods of obtaining the items. The pokemon are still legit.

I'm framing it in terms of altering the pokemon themselves. Having a ton of those TMs wouldn't really make a difference to the pokemon in question (unless you taught a pokemon the same move multiple times, and then it just gets redundant, unless you're talking about altering a really long battle of attrition or something) It would make playing the game easier, sure, but it wouldn't be too hard on multiplayer.

Well, their Pokémon are weak because they only used Rare Candies, and didn't EV Train. If they were just a bit smart, they would use AR to change the IVs of their Pokémon to 31.

Anyway, I'm against cheating on Pokémon. This is mainly because you spend days, months trying to get a good Pokémon from an egg, spend more hours doing EV training and checking its IVs, while people can get Top Pokémon in a couple of minutes.

Another thing I'm against to is cloning in Diamond & Pearl. This takes the unique abilities of a Pokémon in order to get better ones. Unfortunately, I did cloning in the past to get events, as there was no other way to get them unless trading in the WFC. But I don't do it anymore and I disapprove whoever does it.

"so what if i cheat, the more fun i have :D"

I disagree. Cheating causes the time spent on playing so much it becomes boring to cheat...

"I have 63 level 100 legit pokemon, all trained up. The only 'cheat' is that I trade them from one game to another so that they get boosted experience points - but that's a legitimate tactic."

Yep, trading to another game and training is the best method of getting to Lv. 100, for instance, battling the firsherman in Route 222 with another trainer's Pokémon will cause you to get 10,000 exp points in just one battle. That's quite a fair method to train Pokémon.

Well, in the end, cheating in Pokémon is bad, really bad...

cheating = doing anything that someone who plays the game normally can't do. this includes using glitches. :)