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Kenny said:
KylieDog said:
Probably the lack of high quality and consistant third party support, the lack of HD visuals, motion controls and a terrible online system compared to Sony/MS.


I will make note of the "high quality and consistant" remark because I know someone will list off a few games and think that handful compares to the crapload that PS3/360 get. They do not.

I agree with that statement, but that is mostly the fault of the third parties at large.  Nintendo did their part by creating a system with a large userbase, and won this generation with the entire deck stacked against them.  Third parties responded by treating the Wii as a shovelware dumping ground.

As for the non-HDness of the Wii, graphical quality is a means to an end, not an end unto itself.  I agree that the rest can be seen as negatives.

And a highly inferior hardware architecture, it might not have been the best of choices when we're at the gateway into the HD era imo. They made a choice and 3rd parties have responded, rather natrually, a tad negatively to having to settle for a much less advanced platform to develop for. I cannot fathom how anyone can blame developers for Nintendo's choice to go with last generation's hardware setup?

And, as has been mentioned many times before on this site, to this day it remains more appealing to most developers to develop three simultaneous versions for PS360/PC and spread the sales over three platforms rather than just the one (Wii) and its userbase. Developers depend on console manufacturers to create a market for them to sell their games and something tells me that the Wii might not be the best choice for Gran Turismo, Fallout, Half-Life and similar games and the userbase has clearly shown their inclination to purchase and prefer the simpler fare when it is presented. Why spend a fortune on a big budget title with an uncertain future when you can simply make a cheaper game that is practically guaranteed to sell loads more?

I think its time everyone realized that however many Wii's have been sold, Nintendo's strategy is not flawless and celestial and that is starting to show as time goes on. The Wii's type of appeal is its biggest weakness and strength at the same time.

Now, I know someone is gonna play the "but motion controls are the future" card, and fine, maybe they are. That does nothing to change the fact that the Wii is technically an underachiever this gen and developers do care about the technical aspects of development. Its not about only graphics, but overall possibilities, the more advanced the hardware, the more possibilities. An HD Wii with even better motion control and a powerful core would have had near infinite potential and I pray that Nintendo won't choose the exact same route next gen. If they don't toss the developers a bone, they can't expect to have one tossed at them either, its a delicate balance between developer and console maker that needs to be maintained and I don't understand why it is so hard for some people to understand that (not you Kenny, but certainly lots of others).



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I love Nintendo, i think its one of the smartest company in the world and they have made great decision unlike Sony. That said, The Wii ain't for me, it was never made for me. I don't hate it, Why would I hate a console?



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

In my opinion, Nintendo is trash. Always has been.

 

So I don't hate the wii any more than I hate nintendo.



I think they are confused. No self-respecting gamer can legitimately hate Nintendo. I think most of them just hate the console itself because of the amount of shovel ware it has thrust onto it. This should really be a reason to hate the way third parties have been treating the Wii, not the console itself.



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They hate Nintendo because they disrupted the gaming industry, now Sony and Microsoft are going to show how much they really care about their customers

First they decided to copy Nintendo motion controllers, i dont know how well this going to work, but im sure its not going to be nearly as effective as the wiimote

Then, the next generation consoles are going to aim for the casuals, why? because they want money thats what every company want, which means we are not going to have another "classic gaming era" for a while, the amount of "epic" games are going to be reduced to just a few



Nintendo is the best videogames company ever!

The bulk of them i think are people who just hate Wii, but claim to have loved Nintendo in the past for whatever reason. These are the ones that tend to be more vocal than the ones who have hated Nintendo from some time in the past, since the ones who dislike Wii itself are generally the ones running around screaming about "abandonment." The ones who have hated Nintendo from the past are used to just ignoring Nintendo (like they did in the GameCube generation), and just continue to ignore Nintendo like they have.



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Manos said:

In my opinion, Nintendo is trash. Always has been.

 

So I don't hate the wii any more than I hate nintendo.

Only 267 post's and you've already been banned three times.  As an old friend of mine used to say, if it talks like a troll, posts like a troll, and gets banned like a troll it's probably a troll.



Manos said:

In my opinion, Nintendo is trash. Always has been.

 

So I don't hate the wii any more than I hate nintendo.


i forgive you, your judgement is clouded in a purple haze.

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

The problem is not people hating the wii, it's the fact anything you say that is seen as negative towards the Wii and Nintendo is seen as Hating.



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